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So, I have been toying with the idea of taking a stab at making a Pathfinder 3pp for the past couple weeks (and working away at it a bit), and I went to mock up a cover.
I Couldn't find a copy of the logo in any sort of non-ugly resolution. (One that isn't so blurry)
Is there one readily available already?
I've started mocking one up in Photoshop, Basically tracing over the existing one using the fonts and stuff; but I don't know what font the subheader is.
Here's what it currently looks like.
If I could figure out what font was used in the subheader I can finish this myself, but I would also happily accept a link to a vector image or Ultra HD Png.
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Have you tried the one on the Compatibility License page?
Yep. That would be the one I am referring to being too small and blurry for a printed copy.
I'd say you should probably just contact whomever is responsible for the compatibility license stuff, and explain your needs. I'm sure they'd be happy to provide a higher quality logo for print products :)
That would be Liz Courts at
consignments@paizo.com
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If you sign up for the Pathfinder Compatibility Registry, you should get Compatibility Logos added to your Downloads. If they're not there, let me know, and I'll get them added.
Also, since there is a clause in the license that disallows excessive sizes of the Compatibility Logo, a vector format of the Logo isn't as necessary as you might think.
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If you sign up for the Pathfinder Compatibility Registry, you should get Compatibility Logos added to your Downloads. If they're not there, let me know, and I'll get them added.
Also, since there is a clause in the license that disallows excessive sizes of the Compatibility Logo, a vector format of the Logo isn't as necessary as you might think.
I wasn't planning on any excessive sizing, I would just prefer to work in High Resolution (600DPI) if I can, because it leads to things that look much nicer when printed.
I signed up a few days ago, but the logos haven't shown up in my account. I just sent you a PM about it though. :)
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So, out of curiosity: Are we allowed to add textures to blend it in with the cover/make it look better a little bit?
I thought the answer was a clear no, but then I came across this.
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So, out of curiosity: Are we allowed to add textures to blend it in with the cover/make it look better a little bit?
Per Exhibit A of the Pathfinder Compatibility License:
You may not alter the color, typography, design, or proportions of the Compatibility Logo, although you may render it in black and white in situations where color is not available. You may not allow the Compatibility Logo to be obscured in any way.
As long as you stick to those guidelines, you should be fine.
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Hmmm - based on the above, the example Darkholme linked to might be in violation - it would certainly seem to have altered the design and/or proportions of the Compatibility Logo at least somewhat.
My personal rule is to just use the logo exactly as it is. Besides, you really don't want the logo blend in with your cover - you WANT people to see it!
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Thanks Liz, yeah that's what I was referring to. I just saw the bit of texture they added to the banner, and I was wondering if that was cool, or if it pushed the boundaries of what you the license described. Because if it's okay to keep the shapes and colors, but add a tiny bit of texture to the banner, I can make the cover look a bit nicer.
@Marc, when I say "Blend into the cover" I'm referring to having it look like it belongs on the book, rather than looking like some kind of sticker or an MS Paint copy paste job, or something.
Example Midgard Campaign Setting blends in like it's supposed to be there, while the logo on This PDF stands out like an ugly sticker. Also, it has a screwed up Aspect Ratio on the logo. I imagine it was by accident, but it's definitely an alteration of the proportions.
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I just saw the bit of texture they added to the banner, and I was wondering if that was cool, or if it pushed the boundaries of what you the license described. Because if it's okay to keep the shapes and colors, but add a tiny bit of texture to the banner, I can make the cover look a bit nicer.
The long wrap-around banner is not part of the logo.
Also, it has a screwed up Aspect Ratio on the logo. I imagine it was by accident, but it's definitely an alteration of the proportions.
Had the publisher submitted their product to us as required by the Pathfinder Compatibility License, this is something that I would have pointed out to them.
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The long wrap-around banner is not part of the logo.
Interesting.
Just to make sure I understand you correctly that the banner is not part of the logo; does that mean that the logo could be included like this, and that would be fine? Example Image. This seems almost the same as what Legendary did, but I went with blue instead of purple to make the change more obvious.
I'm not saying I intend to go with that (I don't think I would want to), but as an example.
What if there was no banner at all? Like This
Or these
Example 1
Example 2
Example 3
To be clear, I'm not trying to push boundaries to be allowed special privileges or anything, I just want to know exactly where those boundaries are, since it seems some of the currently available products which I thought were breaking those boundaries are actually okay, so I would ather clarify in advance than do something I'm not supposed to.
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If you want to know what the boundaries are 100% and for sure, consult a lawyer. The Compatibility License is legally binding, and if you're seeking clarification on it, I can't provide it., as I am not a lawyer.
However, in the examples you've provided: Definitely No (color changed), No (not what is provided), Definitely No (color changed), Likely Not (the width of the bottom bar is out of proportion), and Likely Not (width of bar out of proportion). The license is pretty clear on this: do not alter color, designs, or proportions (which all of those do).
Again, if you want a definitive interpretation of the license, consult a lawyer.
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Okay. Thanks Liz.
That's about what I was expecting, and what I initially thought. I was just not sure when I saw a couple on DTRPG where they had changed the colors of the bottom bar, and people seemed to be okay with that (they were/are still up and unchanged)); and when I asked about it, I took your response to the linked color change to mean that you guys did not consider the bottom bar to be part of the logo. (Which I thought I would try to clarify, since the bottom bar was included in the package with the logo).
Which made me wonder if I had the potential for more options on incorporating the logo into a cover than I initially thought I did.
After hearing your most recent response, I will assume the people who are doing the neat looking things with the logo but that appear to be pushing/breaking the boundaries of the license, are bending/breaking the license, rather than thinking I must have just misunderstood it.