Martial Bloodrager

[Nathaniel Walker]

Good Morning ALLCON,

Please advise me on a non-spellcasting, martial archetype for the Bloodrager. The bloodline powers & flavor interest me greatly, but I would like martial ability instead of spellcasting levels. My goal is to allow more martial style & flavor, contrasting Bloodlines' savage potential. Please help me balance this?

Ideas kicked around were replacing Spellcaster levels with: 1 / X Level (Fighter) Bonus Feats, (some) Fighter style progression (Two-Handed, Freehand, etc.) as per the Advanced Player's Handbook's class options for Fighter. But how much of one such progression would be equal to the forfeited spellcasting?

The exemplar character I have in mind would be soldierly, steadily fighting to control her Rage through martial discipline. Martial artistry would be her way of focusing her (Draconic) bloodline's destructive tendencies.

If a class(es) has already been done to simulate this, that would be welcome to know too! The concept of playing a usually calm, collected 'good soldier' whose martial self-discipline is to keep that power in check (Ex: Ryu, Street Fighter ALL) could prove fun!

R/S

[haruhiko88]

There is one archetype already. It gives up spellcasting for spell resistance while bloodraging of 8+bloodrager level. At levels it gains a new spell level increase the SR by one more. At 16 the SR is always on and not only when bloodraging.

[Nathaniel Walker]

haruhiko88 wrote:

There is one archetype already. It gives up spellcasting for spell resistance while bloodraging of 8+bloodrager level. At levels it gains a new spell level increase the SR by one more. At 16 the SR is always on and not only when bloodraging.

Right, but how could I balance replacing the SR benefit with some Martial/Combat feats? How many/often?

[Pendagast]

Nathaniel Walker wrote:

haruhiko88 wrote:

There is one archetype already. It gives up spellcasting for spell resistance while bloodraging of 8+bloodrager level. At levels it gains a new spell level increase the SR by one more. At 16 the SR is always on and not only when bloodraging.

Right, but how could I balance replacing the SR benefit with some Martial/Combat feats? How many/often?

just make a barbarian that gets more rage powers.

Theres now rules for weaker bloodline abilities you can take as rage powers.

Use two rage powers to get one normal bloodrager bloodline power/ability.

[Nathaniel Walker]

Awesome! Which book or post has this? Will take a look!

[Ventnor]

Nathaniel Walker wrote:

Awesome! Which book or post has this? Will take a look!

Look in the Barbarian section of the Advanced Class Guide. All the Bloodline Rage Powers are there.

[Arachnofiend]

The Barb bloodline powers aren't terribly great, unfortunately. Well, except for the Greater Elemental Blood feat. Now you can fly and pounce in the same build. That's pretty good.

[Umbranus]

There is one bloodrager archetype that can burn spell slots for self healing. That, too would be a good way for a non casting bloodrager.