Care and feeding of kytons


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion

Grand Lodge

According to Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Bestiary 2, kytons are "evil fiends who feed on the fear and suffering of mortals through painful supernatural means." Has it ever been established how kytons feed on the fear and suffering of mortals through supernatural means? Do kytons only feed on their chosen prey on the Plane of Shadows? Or can, or do, kytons feed on the Prime Material plane? To feed, do kytons have to be in physical contact with their prey or do kytons use the "supernatural means" to feed on mortals from a distance? If kytons can feed from a distance, how far can their prey be? Could kytons feed on the fear and suffering of mortals in the path of wars, famines, or natural disaster(s) or feed on the sorrow of survivors from these or other tragedies on the Prime Material plane? Hopefully, Wes Schneider, if he is available, the creator of kytons might give some insight into the care and feeding of kytons. :-)

Lantern Lodge

Well, I would wager that Kyton lure mortals to their realms, via artefact (think Le marchand's box) or Ostiarus promises.
They more like disturbed philosopher and surgeon that agent of disaster.
After luring the mortals, they start to work on them, by torture, surgery and some twisted philosophy of enlightment.

For feeding purpose, they may be using the removed part or the drained bodily fluid and then, savouring it as wine and snack.
After some truly vile mutilation, a mortal can become a new Kyton.

Kytons are also sadist, so more than sustentation, it is the high of seeing and feeing their victims pain that feed them.


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

To my knowledge there hasn't been anything set in stone about that process. I would consider it more metaphoric than actual physical feeding, being outsiders they are metaphysical concepts given form so they can flip biology off in the rear-view mirror as they speed down Evil Lane. They are described as replacing their own organs and body parts from their victims so that could also be considered a form of feeding.

I would suspect kytons would "work" on their victims anywhere they have an opportunity, captured mortals on the material plane, or those who willingly followed them to their own plane, or the souls of mortals sacrificed in specific rituals.

This is all supposition on my end though, but I really would like to learn more about kytons, and hope they get their own book or barring that their own article someday.


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Hopefully, Wes Schneider, if he is available, the creator of kytons might give some insight into the care and feeding of kytons. :-)

Kytons predate Pathfinder...


Kytons torture and twist people through their own version of flesh crafting.

I always imagined them turning people into food dispensers that spit out humors and vitriol until nothing is left. This humanity free shell is the basis for future kytons.

They use all the parts. All of them.

Grand Lodge

Thanael wrote:
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Hopefully, Wes Schneider, if he is available, the creator of kytons might give some insight into the care and feeding of kytons. :-)
Kytons predate Pathfinder...

Pathfinder kytons share similarities to Dungeons & Dragons kytons, or "chain devils", like Pathfinder goblins share similarities to Dungeons & Dragons goblins. Pathfinder kytons are more influenced by Clive Barker's engineers/cenobites and reside in the Plane of Shadow. Does Jangling Hiter "City of Chains" and the fetid bogs of Minauros exist in Pathfinder's version of Baator? Do kytons serve as the city’s constabulary?


Kytons first appeared the the 2nd edition planescape supplement Planes of Law and were created by Colin McComb.

Grand Lodge

Although player characters may not be familiar with The Hellbound Heart novella, the Hellraiser series of films, or images and lore of Pinhead and the engineers/cenobites, players will instantly recognize a kyton as a similar creation to an engineer/cenobite. So I am looking for ways to surprise players by using kytons in ways that they don't suspect so the adventure doesn't seem like a Hellraiser sequel. Puzzles or puzzle boxes would be recognized as, or variations of, Lemarchand boxes. A PC would never just play with a puzzle box or be seduced by the half-truths or the honeyed lies of an Ostiarius. Players are much more knowledgeable than their PCs.


More 2e Kyton Lore to pillage or adapt.

(Yes I know PF Kytons are different from 2e Kytons.)

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