The thread name is pretty self-explanatory, but I should elaborate.
When you attack with 2 unarmed attacks, do you need Double Slice in order to deal full damage with both attacks, or, because they're part of your body, do you always deal full damage?
I know you can't rightly do 1.5x Str damage with your primary hand, because there's really no way to "wield" a hand with two hands; I didn't know if the corollary where also true.
You still need double slice because off-hand attacks still only do .5 str damage.
If you gain IUS via a 1 level dip in monk, all your unarmed attacks are treated as primary attacks and therefore do not take x.5 on off hand attacks via twf
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If you gain IUS via a 1 level dip in monk, all your unarmed attacks are treated as primary attacks and therefore do not take x.5 on off hand attacks via twf
This is incorrect.
Unarmed Strikes are light weapons. When you fight with 2 of them, your off-hand Strike is at half Strength, just like any other light weapon.
When a Monk uses Flurry of Blows (only) his Unarmed Strikes are at full damage, but it is not because of the feat Improved Unarmed Strike.
Actually, you're incorrect Nefreet.
Unarmed Strike: At 1st level, a monk gains Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat. A monk's attacks may be with fist, elbows, knees, and feet. This means that a monk may make unarmed strikes with his hands full. There is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking unarmed. A monk may thus apply his full Strength bonus on damage rolls for all his unarmed strikes.
So, if for some insane reason you decided not to Flurry, but to use your normal, terrible attack pattern, you'd still get full Strength to your offhand attack, provided you made one.
....never correct me! ;)
Yes, I was referring to the full damage on off hands that monks get via their modified IUS class ability. I thought I was clear, but apparently not....
...then again, perhaps Nefreet has just made it his lives goal to tell me I'm wrong on every post I make...seems that way sometimes.
I know you can't rightly do 1.5x Str damage with your primary hand, because there's really no way to "wield" a hand with two hands; I didn't know if the corollary where also true.
Well, you can wield a hand with 2 hands, but that would be some sort of improvised weapon, and it would have to be someone else's hand.
Anyway, you need special training in order to get the offhand to deal full strength damage. This is an assumption based off of the idea that coordinating 2 weapons (even if they are fists) is hard. The power of an attack is not just generated in the arms, but the enitre body, as you ground your feet and pivot your hips in order to add more force to the blow.
To be able to apply the same amount of force to each weapon (which each need their own pivoting and foot placement) while going back and forth between them need special training. Monks get this training from the get go, since they seek to master their bodies.
Anyway, this pivoting and torque stuff is why you can have either hand as your main hand or off hand, and you can switch which is which between different full attacks.
I am probably reading too much into all this though. A lot of this is based off of my assumptions colored by my limited knowledge of melee techniques (ie.- junk I saw on some discovery channel show or something)