| Chris Rivers 682 |
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The Eldritch Scion archetype in the ACG gets Spell Recall @ 11th level:
Spell Recall(Su): The magus learns to use his arcane pool to recall spells he has already cast. With a swift action he can recall any single magus spell that he has already prepared and cast that day by expending a number of points from his arcane pool equal to the spell's level (minimum 1). The spell is prepared again, just as if it had not been cast.
My question is does this have any affect on the Eldritch Scion since it does not prepare spells or does it regain spell slots instead?
| Chris Rivers 682 |
The Eldritch Scion archetype in the ACG gets Spell Recall @ 11th level:
Spell Recall(Su): The magus learns to use his arcane pool to recall spells he has already cast. With a swift action he can recall any single magus spell that he has already prepared and cast that day by expending a number of points from his arcane pool equal to the spell's level (minimum 1). The spell is prepared again, just as if it had not been cast.
My question is does this have any affect on the Eldritch Scion since it does not prepare spells or does it regain spell slots instead?
Anyone have an opinion?
| Claxon |
Bloodline: An eldritch scion gains a bloodrager bloodline.
The bloodline is selected at 1st level, and this choice cannot
be changed. An eldritch scion’s effective bloodrager level for
his bloodline abilities is equal to his eldritch scion level. He
does not gain any bonus feats, and he gains bonus spells from
his bloodline at different levels (see the bonus spell class
feature below). To use any ability that normally functions
when in a bloodrage, an eldritch scion must spend a point
from his eldritch pool (see below).
If an eldritch scion takes levels in another class that
grant a bloodline, the bloodlines must be the same type,
even if that means that the bloodline of one of the classes
must change. Subject to GM discretion, an eldritch scion
can change his former bloodline to make them conform.
This ability replaces spell recall.
| chaoseffect |
Quote:Bloodline: An eldritch scion gains a bloodrager bloodline.
The bloodline is selected at 1st level, and this choice cannot
be changed. An eldritch scion’s effective bloodrager level for
his bloodline abilities is equal to his eldritch scion level. He
does not gain any bonus feats, and he gains bonus spells from
his bloodline at different levels (see the bonus spell class
feature below). To use any ability that normally functions
when in a bloodrage, an eldritch scion must spend a point
from his eldritch pool (see below).
If an eldritch scion takes levels in another class that
grant a bloodline, the bloodlines must be the same type,
even if that means that the bloodline of one of the classes
must change. Subject to GM discretion, an eldritch scion
can change his former bloodline to make them conform.
This ability replaces spell recall.
But not Improved Spell Recall. As per some official ruling that means that when the Eldritch Scion would get Improved Spell Recall, he instead gets normal Spell Recall.
| Claxon |
Claxon wrote:But not Improved Spell Recall. As per some official ruling that means that when the Eldritch Scion would get Improved Spell Recall, he instead gets normal Spell Recall.Quote:Bloodline: An eldritch scion gains a bloodrager bloodline.
The bloodline is selected at 1st level, and this choice cannot
be changed. An eldritch scion’s effective bloodrager level for
his bloodline abilities is equal to his eldritch scion level. He
does not gain any bonus feats, and he gains bonus spells from
his bloodline at different levels (see the bonus spell class
feature below). To use any ability that normally functions
when in a bloodrage, an eldritch scion must spend a point
from his eldritch pool (see below).
If an eldritch scion takes levels in another class that
grant a bloodline, the bloodlines must be the same type,
even if that means that the bloodline of one of the classes
must change. Subject to GM discretion, an eldritch scion
can change his former bloodline to make them conform.
This ability replaces spell recall.
Source? I'm unaware of any FAQ that would imply that. However, even if you did it's still an unusable class feature. Seems more like an oversight. It probably should have also been replaced with regular spell recall.
| chaoseffect |
Looked up some posts about it and was referred to the text for archetypes, so I guess a FAQ wasn't needed.
Alternate Class Features, look at the last paragraph:
"If an archetype replaces a class ability that is part of a series of improvements or additions to a base ability (such as a fighter's weapon training or a ranger's favored enemy), the next time the character would gain that ability, it counts as the lower-level ability that was replaced by the archetype. In effect, all abilities in that series are delayed until the next time the class improves that ability. For example, if an archetype replaces a rogue's +2d6 sneak attack bonus at 3rd level, when she reaches 5th level and gains a sneak attack bonus, her sneak attack doesn't jump from +1d6 to +3d6—it improves to +2d6, just as if she had finally gained the increase at 3rd level. This adjustment continues for every level at which her sneak attack would improve, until at 19th level she has +9d6 instead of the +10d6 of a standard rogue."
| Claxon |
Looked up some posts about it and was referred to the text for archetypes, so I guess a FAQ wasn't needed.
Alternate Class Features, look at the last paragraph:
"If an archetype replaces a class ability that is part of a series of improvements or additions to a base ability (such as a fighter's weapon training or a ranger's favored enemy), the next time the character would gain that ability, it counts as the lower-level ability that was replaced by the archetype. In effect, all abilities in that series are delayed until the next time the class improves that ability. For example, if an archetype replaces a rogue's +2d6 sneak attack bonus at 3rd level, when she reaches 5th level and gains a sneak attack bonus, her sneak attack doesn't jump from +1d6 to +3d6—it improves to +2d6, just as if she had finally gained the increase at 3rd level. This adjustment continues for every level at which her sneak attack would improve, until at 19th level she has +9d6 instead of the +10d6 of a standard rogue."
Interesting. Well, it should have been replaced. As it still doesn't work since the Eldritch Scion isn't a prepared spell caster. Or something should have been done. So, it still seems like an oversight.