Primal companion hunter cheese, or Dr Octopus and his dead spider

[Avadriel]

Primal companion hunters gain the ability to evolve their animal companion for minutes per day (based on hunter level). They also treat their hunter level as their summoner level for determining the maximum number of attacks for their evolved companion and the number of evolution points that can be spent.

They also get one more important ability; they can evolve themselves if their animal companion is dead. This would be just a cool thing if the wording for the attack limits didn't specifically call it out as only limiting the animal companion's attacks. Because of that, it is now possible for a player character with a dead animal companion to have a very large number of natural attacks per round, and they can also gain pounce.

So here is a fun character:
Dr Octopus
7th level Primal Companion Hunter
race, doesn't matter
stats, irrelevant
feats, who cares
animal companion; a dead spider named "man"
10 evolution points 7 minutes of evolving
points 1-8 are all tentacles, and points 9 and 10 give him pounce.

Dr Octopus has 8 secondary natural weapon attacks in addition to any other attacks he gets from his real limbs, and can make all his attacks while charging. And that isn't even close to the best you can do with this archetype.

[John John]

Avadriel wrote:

This would be just a cool thing if the wording for the attack limits didn't specifically call it out as only limiting the animal companion's attacks.

Yeah now its just uncool.

[Avadriel]

Alternative interpretations of that sentence include it as being something in addition to being cool, for example, cool and broken, cool and over powered, cool and ridiculous.

To expand on the point of that sentence, a level 20 character gets 26 evolution points, they could get 24 secondary natural attacks (tentacle evolution) and pounce, or they could get 16 primary natural attacks (limbs + claws evolutions) and pounce.

[Mergy]

How are you qualifying for Pounce?

[Matrix Dragon]

Mergy wrote:

How are you qualifying for Pounce?

This is a very good point. Pounce is only available for quadrupeds. I doubt that your character is going to qualify.

[K177Y C47]

Matrix Dragon wrote:

Mergy wrote:

How are you qualifying for Pounce?

This is a very good point. Pounce is only available for quadrupeds. I doubt that your character is going to qualify.

Centaur? He did say race didn't matter...

Of you can always grant yourself the legs enhancement...