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You can use Intimidate check to demoralize opponents, which grants them the Shaken condition. This condition can never upgrade an existing Fear condition, no matter what the source, and vice versa. They only EXTEND the duration of the Shaken condition. So using Demoralize then a spell like Cause Fear only makes them very, very shakened. (see Joshua J. Frost's clarification on this)
Dazzling Display allows you to use Demoralize all opponents within 30 feet of you with a full round action.
In the Advanced Class Guide, there is a feat called Disheartening Display:
When you successfully use Dazzling Display against any shaken, frightened, or panicked opponents, their fear increases by one step. An already panicked creature demoralized by this feat cowers.
Does Disheartening Display make it so you CAN upgrade a shaken/frightened/panicked condition, no matter what the original source? Or does the original condition need to be from a non-Demoralize source?
Because it says demoralize doesn't stack with any fear effect, yet Disheartening Display specifically says that they are being "demoralized" using this feat, so it seems to circumvent it?
Example: An Inquisitor uses Blistering Invective, which allows a free Intimidate check to demoralize everyone within 30 feet. Everyone within 30 feet now has the Shaken condition. She then performs Disheartening Display. Does everything with a Shaken condition then get advanced to Frightened?
Seems straight forward to me; it says if they are shaken, frightened, or panicked, it escalates. If it cared how they got there before the escalation, it would mention it. I like this in combo with Improved Dirge of Doom.
Sorry to necro this thread but I have some additional questions along this same line. As mentioned above, if you were to use blistering invective and then disheartening display the condition should go to frightened. But what if they had the rogue Thug template with the Frightening ability:
"Whenever a thug successfully uses Intimidate to demoralize a creature, the duration of the shaken condition is increased by 1 round. In addition, if the target is shaken for 4 or more rounds, the thug can instead decide to make the target frightened for 1 round."
1. The easy one that I assume is yes: Can you use the thug ability with blistering invective to make them frightened and then dazzling display with disheartening display to make them panicked?
2. Can you use the thug ability with dazzling display and disheartening display(after using blistering invective of course)to raise them from shaken all the way to panicked?
I sure hope so, because that's what I'm doing with my Rogue.
Anyone else have any opinions?
