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So, I played the various quests at GenCon and got a chronicle sheet there for the Silverhex quests. There seemed to be little consensus on how this is to be applied to a character, whether the character had to be level 1 or not (for example). I'm planning to use it on a level 1 character anyhow, but I am curious how this is actually supposed to work. More importantly (perhaps) is the fact that I've realized now that there were no tracking sheet type signups and that I was never asked the number of the character I'm applying the credit to. Do I just apply it and forever have my online records not match up? It's not a huge issue since I rarely use the online records, but I am curious as to how this is supposed to work in practice. Thanks!
Also, as a note to the Powers That Be... the quest thing was awesome fun. You managed to suck up all the free time I had kept in my schedule, and as a result I never even checked out the exhibit hall. My wallet thanks you.
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Reporting the Quests as presented presents a bizarre challenge, as maximizing the flexibility in reporting (i.e. waiting to assign credit to a particular character number like XXXXXX–4 or –5) also means complicating the reporting during the first session of the Quest (i.e. what does an organizer input for a character number when reporting the first Quest if the player has not yet concluded the Quest series?).
For those who have the file, check out page 3, which explains how one receives credit. The way I wrote it grants greater flexibility in playing the adventures rather than maximizing the information we receive through the reporting system. At this time it is not essential that a player assign the Chronicle sheet to a particular character number on the reporting sheet, though if the player happens to have completed the Quest series and/or knows which character is receiving the credit, reporting that information would be helpful.
The exact execution for the Chronicle sheets did not come together until shortly before Gen Con, so there has not yet been time to update the reporting system to, for example, track which individual Quests were played or how many Quests were played as part of a session. Until such a time as we can add those features, include what information you can, and expect to see the occasional "You have already received credit for this adventure" warning on your online record.
If you have further feedback or recommendations based on this new system for Quests, let me know.
Also, as a note to the Powers That Be... the quest thing was awesome fun. You managed to suck up all the free time I had kept in my schedule, and as a result I never even checked out the exhibit hall. My wallet thanks you.
The authors did a great job of coordinating with one another to ensure the Quests all integrated with one another to tell as big or small a story as the players might want. I'm very happy with how the final product turned out.
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Likewise, for those of us that ran and didn't receive a chronicle sheet is there anyway to secure one now?
I was reassigned from my slotted scenario to help support quests so I don't now have access to page 3.
I did the same thing after my Assault on the Wound table never went off. I ran three quests during that slot.
Also, I second carmanbeck's inquiry into where I can download these as every session I ran had a great time even though I was trying to piece it together as I ran.
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I ran 20 quests over 4 slots.
The player PFS numbers weren't all being recorded, so players don't need to worry about it appearing on the website.
The GM PFS numbers were being recorded, and as John stated, they will get them on the website when they adjust the reporting system.
As for people with postcards... I would just contact your local venture officer for chronicle trade in.
My 2cents on the quests - they were a blast and I had a wide variety of players ranging from PFS-pros to never played DnD/PF.. everyone had a really good time. The variety of encounters was great including a deadly one.
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How do we actually report these, though? There doesn't seem to be a "Silverhex Chronicles" option when reporting. My friend who ran at GenCon told me they reported his GM credit under Beginner Box Demos 2, so that's what I reported our recent Silverhex table under too, but I'd love to change it to something more representative.
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Reporting the Quests as presented presents a bizarre challenge, as maximizing the flexibility in reporting (i.e. waiting to assign credit to a particular character number like XXXXXX–4 or –5) also means complicating the reporting during the first session of the Quest (i.e. what does an organizer input for a character number when reporting the first Quest if the player has not yet concluded the Quest series?).
For those who have the file, check out page 3, which explains how one receives credit. The way I wrote it grants greater flexibility in playing the adventures rather than maximizing the information we receive through the reporting system. At this time it is not essential that a player assign the Chronicle sheet to a particular character number on the reporting sheet, though if the player happens to have completed the Quest series and/or knows which character is receiving the credit, reporting that information would be helpful.
The exact execution for the Chronicle sheets did not come together until shortly before Gen Con, so there has not yet been time to update the reporting system to, for example, track which individual Quests were played or how many Quests were played as part of a session. Until such a time as we can add those features, include what information you can, and expect to see the occasional "You have already received credit for this adventure" warning on your online record.
If you have further feedback or recommendations based on this new system for Quests, let me know.
DrakeRoberts wrote:Also, as a note to the Powers That Be... the quest thing was awesome fun. You managed to suck up all the free time I had kept in my schedule, and as a result I never even checked out the exhibit hall. My wallet thanks you.The authors did a great job of coordinating with one another to ensure the Quests all integrated with one another to tell as big or small a story as the players might want. I'm very happy with how the final product turned out.
Even if it's as a generic "A Quest" - how should we report this? We had three tables happen at our recent con, two of which had people asking for PFS #s and to sign up to join our local lodge! :)
Thanks! (and I echo the above - I found these to be lots of fun to run!)
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Reporting the Quests as presented presents a bizarre challenge, as maximizing the flexibility in reporting (i.e. waiting to assign credit to a particular character number like XXXXXX–4 or –5) also means complicating the reporting during the first session of the Quest (i.e. what does an organizer input for a character number when reporting the first Quest if the player has not yet concluded the Quest series?).
For those who have the file, check out page 3, which explains how one receives credit. The way I wrote it grants greater flexibility in playing the adventures rather than maximizing the information we receive through the reporting system. At this time it is not essential that a player assign the Chronicle sheet to a particular character number on the reporting sheet, though if the player happens to have completed the Quest series and/or knows which character is receiving the credit, reporting that information would be helpful.
The exact execution for the Chronicle sheets did not come together until shortly before Gen Con, so there has not yet been time to update the reporting system to, for example, track which individual Quests were played or how many Quests were played as part of a session. Until such a time as we can add those features, include what information you can, and expect to see the occasional "You have already received credit for this adventure" warning on your online record.
If you have further feedback or recommendations based on this new system for Quests, let me know.
DrakeRoberts wrote:Also, as a note to the Powers That Be... the quest thing was awesome fun. You managed to suck up all the free time I had kept in my schedule, and as a result I never even checked out the exhibit hall. My wallet thanks you.The authors did a great job of coordinating with one another to ensure the Quests all integrated with one another to tell as big or small a story as the players might want. I'm very happy with how the final product turned out.
What would the most preferred way of reporting this on the Paizo site be? I plan to run all 6 this weekend at a public location where a few players might stay for all 6 sessions, though more are likely, including people brand new to Pathfinder Roleplay, will stay for only one or a few sessions. Do I report it as one table and list all the people who played throughout the day, or each session separately, with who played at those sessions?
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/Thread Necro.
I am organising a mini-con, and am considering running the quests.
I see these as an opportunity to 'short sharp shock' for new potential players (who might invest an hour or two out of curiosity) and also due to the de-linking of them needing pre-gens I expect some interest from more regular PFS players.
I take it now that 'every 4 hours' counts as 1 session.
* Does it matter how many segments of the 6 they complete in that time? (ie if they take four hours to get two done, is that an issue?)
* Do we have to record the player number after 4 hours, or when they have indicated they have completed the number of segments they wish to complete? (ie we have completed 4 after 4 hours, but they are continuing on still)
* How much detail are we supposed to collect from drop in/random players? (assuming not a roleplayer/curious parent/kid/lost guy who came in and sat down because he saw the coffee cart and ends up playing for a couple of hours)
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/Thread Necro.
I am organising a mini-con, and am considering running the quests.
Great! I like Phantom better than Silver Hex, but others feel differently. If you're running them, make sure that the GM who is doing the quests understands and conveys a little of the ongoing storyline in case they get a segment like 'Web' that is otherwise a little devoid of story content and new players dropping in... Having a bit of story helps the characters immerse, even in a quest.
I see these as an opportunity to 'short sharp shock' for new potential players (who might invest an hour or two out of curiosity) and also due to the de-linking of them needing pre-gens I expect some interest from more regular PFS players.
I take it now that 'every 4 hours' counts as 1 session.
* Does it matter how many segments of the 6 they complete in that time? (ie if they take four hours to get two done, is that an issue?)
4 quests will net them 1 XP 2PP. More quests get them more gold. It's the number of quests that matter not the time to complete them, but quests are fast. With the right GM, you can easily do 4 in 4 hours. Maybe even 5 quests.
We recorded the player number even if they only did a single quest. Some were 'one' and 'done'. Others wanted to do them all. We filled out scenario sheets for each segment because at the cons I've been at, people were coming and going constantly. However, we were able to track how many quests a given player did that weekend. Here's how many quest players we got coming back:* Do we have to record the player number after 4 hours, or when they have indicated they have completed the number of segments they wish to complete? (ie we have completed 4 after 4 hours, but they are continuing on still)
- 3 quests -- 25
- 4 quests -- 16
- 5 quests -- 13
- 6 quests -- 8
I don't have stats on how many people tried out a quest and then signed up for a regular scenario, but we had people doing that too. At another convention (a gaming one) I had people showing up at the quests table when they finished scenarios because they had time to kill, and then going back to the scenarios, and then returning to quests... It was considered a fun filler for them.
* How much detail are we supposed to collect from drop in/random players? (assuming not a roleplayer/curious parent/kid/lost guy who came in and sat down because he saw the coffee cart and ends up playing for a couple of hours)
Track the casuals too if they'll let you. Make sure they get new player folders with a page listing where they can find your games and who to contact. Keith came to the realization at last Convergence that he'd gotten a number of his GMs (including me and Bret) from convention walk-ins who tried out PFS and liked it.
Hmm
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Thanks for that, great insight based on practical application.
I'm happy any of our local GM's could plough through in decent order, I'm more suggesting its the newer players who might slow that process right down with a bajillion questions - as yeah it would likely be kids/non gamers.
With casuals, 'Where to find us/who to talk to" is a given (and wow you scored GMs!?), I'm just more wrapped around the axles on how all the data gets tracked and poured into the Paizo.com reporting tool - "Yeah we had these two PFS players and Jack and Jill"... The system doesn't track Jack and Jill very well.
It seems the quests are a default Beginner Box Bash just...better.
On a tangent, some kind of 1-2 player intro scenarios could fill an obvious gap here too. Getting four random curious people in one place at one time can suck.
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Ok... I just. GM for all six. Sessions (same players. All 6) reported it and. Get 2 GM prestige but ZERO table credit. Is this going to be fixed? If so HOW please.
Huh. Reporting Phantom Phenomena works... Those quests have counted towards my stars.
I just flagged my own post here. Hopefully one of the Paizo staff members will be by soon to look at this, and take a look at what is going on with Silverhex.
Hmm