Spell Resistance and Shout

[Tangent101]

When looking at the spell Shout, I noticed that it has under Spell Resistance Yes (Object).

Does that mean the only thing allowed a SR roll would be an object with Spell Resistance? Or that if something with SR is holding an object that could be shattered by a Shout, that is when the SR takes effect?

(The whole Spell Resistance with Objects rule is a bit confusing, to be honest. I'm more than halfway tempted to just ignore the object aspect and let SR override any spell with a Yes; and to be honest I don't see why a spell like Mage Armor should not be ignored by SR as well seeing that it's a magical effect, even if a defensive one.)

[Starglim]

If the object has SR or a creature with SR attends it, (the best) SR applies.

[Tangent101]

So a creature with Spell Resistance alone would not get any benefit against the Shout, but a glass vase it was holding would. oO

[Jeff Merola]

From the magic chapter:

Quote:

The spell can be cast on objects, which receive saving throws only if they are magical or if they are attended (held, worn, grasped, or the like) by a creature resisting the spell, in which case the object uses the creature's saving throw bonus unless its own bonus is greater. This notation does not mean that a spell can be cast only on objects. Some spells of this sort can be cast on creatures or objects. A magic item's saving throw bonuses are each equal to 2 + 1/2 the item's caster level.

Quote:

The terms “object” and “harmless” mean the same thing for spell resistance as they do for saving throws. A creature with spell resistance must voluntarily lower the resistance (a standard action) in order to be affected by such spells without forcing the caster to make a caster level check.

[Tangent101]

Let me revise the question.

If a spell states for Spell Resistance Yes (Object), does that mean the creature gets Spell Resistance against the effect?

[Parody]

Yes, unless the creature has chosen to lower its spell resistance.

The spell can also be cast on objects, and if the object is attended by a creature with SR you must roll against SR unless the creature has chosen to lower its spell resistance.

Hope this helps.

[Tangent101]

It does tremendously. Thank you.

[Splendor]

I believe it means that 'Yes' creatures get spell resistance against the spell, and unattended items with spell resistance can also resist.

I can't find an example of an item with spell resistance, but there has to be some.

There are quite a few spells that state "Spell Resistance Yes (Object)", so there really should be a clear answer. So make a new thread with the question clearly stated and I'll add my mark for it too be FAQed.

[Jeff Merola]

Splendor wrote:

I believe it means that 'Yes' creatures get spell resistance against the spell, and unattended items with spell resistance can also resist.

I can't find an example of an item with spell resistance, but there has to be some.

There are quite a few spells that state "Spell Resistance Yes (Object)", so there really should be a clear answer. So make a new thread with the question clearly stated and I'll add my mark for it too be FAQed.

I'm not sure what's not clear about it. As per what I quoted, the (object) tag just means it can affect objects and that certain ones (attended objects and unattended magical objects) get saving throws and/or spell resistance, depending on which portion of the spell lists (object).