PFS & ACG Retrain Synergy

[Sammy T]

Do hybrid classes use their parent classes to determine retraining synergy?

[BigNorseWolf]

They said they're going to come out with a chart, so its either out there and I haven't seen it, or (more likely) its one of those after gencon things

[Avatar-1]

Where did they say that?

I've been chasing this since the playtest.

[s_gmusic]

Here's hoping they answer this Soon. Having synergy or not will be the difference between retraining today or in a month. :(

[Ryv]

I am so ready to lose a level of cleric in exchange for a level of warpriest.

[redward]

It only just occurred to me that the cost for retraining from a Hybrid to a Parent class and vice versa could (and maybe should?) be less than the normal 5PP for synergistic classes.

I doubt that will happen, but it only makes sense that it's easier for a Cleric to transition to Warpriest than to Druid.

[Secane]

Ryv wrote:

I am so ready to lose a level of cleric in exchange for a level of warpriest.

I was planning on that too! Until I realize the travel bless don't give +10ft base movement speed... :(

[Arvat "Sweeping Wind"]

We still waiting on this?

[John Compton]

Arvat "Sweeping Wind" wrote:

We still waiting on this?

Not at all. The retraining rules for Advanced Class Guide classes appeared in a September 15th blog.

[GM Lamplighter]

EDIT: Found the other retraining synergies - they're all (confusingly) located under the "What are the warpriest's retraining synergies" heading.

[Melkiador]

I find it funny that the Shaman is an Oracle/Witch and uses the Druid entry. Maybe Oracle also uses the Druid entry?

[Avatar-1]

Crazy idea - is it possible to get the retraining synergies in the PFS guide?

Or will there be an errata to Ultimate Campaign?

Or in the FAQ?

I think this is the only time a staple ruling has only been recoverable from a blog post.

[John Compton]

Avatar-1 wrote:

Crazy idea - is it possible to get the retraining synergies in the PFS guide?

Or will there be an errata to Ultimate Campaign?

Or in the FAQ?

I think this is the only time a staple ruling has only been recoverable from a blog post.

My first inclination is the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play, but the more I can avoid increasing the page count of that document, the better. The FAQ would be the next best place.

I first approached the Design Team with the substitutions months ago, and I don't know that a reprinting of Ultimate Campaign is much closer. Even when a reprinting does happen, I don't know that there would be physical space on that page to expand the table—to say nothing of whether we would also need to fit the Occult Adventures classes on there. Yeah, FAQ is really the cleanest place for this to go.

[Mandy H.]

This may be a silly suggestion, and too late now for the ACG classes: but would it make sense, with new classes going forward, for any retraining synergies to be a part of the class basic description, such as: "This class functions as a wizard for retraining purposes." or some such thing? Since you need the source for the class to use it legally in PFS anyhow (or to use it in general), having it with the rest of the information about the class would seem to make sense.