Several Question on the Use of Whips by Tiny creatures.

[Rudy2]

I'm considering making a dex-based halfling using Risky Striker feat, and a whip, ultimately making use of 'reduce person' to become tiny on a regular basis, around the same time he has the Whip Mastery and Improved Whip Mastery feats.

First, how long of a reach does a tiny creature using a whip have? James Jacobs says 10 feet, which I will go with if there is nothing more official.

Second, what does the base damage of a whip scale to for tiny? A small whip is 1d2. Is there anything less than 1d2? Does it just become "1"?

Third, anyone know of any way to deal piercing damage with a whip? I ask because of a potential Swashbuckler involvement in the build. If not, I'll do without Swashbuckler.

[Gauss]

CRB page145 Table 6-5 states that a Tiny version of a Medium weapon that does 1d3 does 1 point of damage.

[graystone]

Weapon Versatility (Combat) feat solves #3. Well at least the damage. Not sure if it'll actually work with the swashbucklers abilities.

[Kazaan]

You are correct in what kind of reach you'd have. Since you can't "double" or "triple" a natural reach of 0 (since the result is still 0), it basically says that you treat the reach as 5' but shift it down by 1 square. So a Tiny creature with a normal reach weapon can attack out to 5' and with a whip can attack out to 10'. A Diminutive creature would need a whip just to attack out to 5' from their home square. A Fine creature would need a weapon with 20' of reach (ie. Witch's Hair hex) to attack out to 5'.

it would deal a flat 1 point of damage as its weapon damage, plus whatever applicable static modifiers apply. As far as damage type goes, the jury is still out on whether Weapon Versatility makes the weapon count as a piercing weapon or if it just lets it deal piercing damage but still is counted as its base weapon type (slashing, in this case).

[Rudy2]

Thanks for all of that! I looked around myself, and while you're correct, graystone, that Weapon Versatility is unclear whether it would work for what I want, the Slashing Grace feat from the ACG itself will definitely work. That feat takes any one-handed slashing weapon, and lets you treat it as a one-handed piercing weapon for all feats and class abilities. It won't actually do piercing damage, but that's no big deal.

Now to build this sucker. Roll for damage? Who does that? =D

[graystone]

I didn't suggest the Slashing Grace feat since I don't have the ACG and the official wording of the feat. :)