Trasmutation (Polymorph Spells) and Natural Attacks that deal stat damage / drain?

[prototype00]

Hi All,

If I polymorph into a creature that deals stat drain/damage with their natural attacks, do I get to do the same?

Also, if I used vital strike, would I be able to do double that stat drain/damage?

prototype00

[Maezer]

Not usually. Most instances of stat drain/damage are granted by supernatural or extraordinary ability rather than the natural attack alone and as that draining/damaging ability is not listed in the ability gained section of your polymorph spell you don't get that portion of the damage.

Undead Anatomy 4, might be an exception but its really poorly written so I'd consult the DM.

[prototype00]

So in the case of when it is in the natural attack alone (like say for Immortal Ichor) then it would be fine?

prototype00

[wraithstrike]

You only get it if the spell that you are using says you get it. Otherwise you only get the size increases and maybe mental stats depending on the spell, but to answer your question you do not get ability drain or damage from the ooze.

[prototype00]

Thats fair enough, wraithstrike, and the RAW supports it, really.

prototype00

[Mojorat]

It looks like the ooze gets the wis drain from the corrupt (su) ability. There seems to be onconsistancy in its damage (1d3 vs 1d6)

[Taenia]

It doesn't get it from the Corrupt ability. It is tied specifically to its slam attack.

I am curious because it is in the same place as energy damage tied to a natural attack. Sometimes its from an ability other times its just listed in the stat block as part of the natural attack. Since Polymorph grants you the natural attack does it or does it not include the energy damage granted if no other ability listed is granting it?