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I'm trying to find a way for the Hamatula feats to work in the Chiliax book. Some of you have seen my earlier posts on the issue and I appreciate the corrections where I was wrong on the rules.
The idea is to use the Brawler class with a d8 or greater damaging, Piercing, Monk weapon. All that in one that is both melee and a reach weapon. The Hamatula feats require a piercing weapon to grapple with. The idea of the Monk weapon when not grappling I'm sundering or damaging with Brawler's Flurry.
I'm not finding one in the Ultimate Equipment (UE). If you know of a monk, piercing, d8 or greater weapon anywhere else, please let me know.
With Greater Grapple, I can attack again as a move action. That would mean I would attack with my highest attack bonus with CMB after grappling with a piercing weapon.
There is a post put out there by James Jacobs explaining the rules about Greater Grapple but not talking about the Hamatula feats. There is a thread that brought up his thread recently, I don't know if it is still around.
Rapid Grapple would allow an attempt as a swift action. That is at 11th level when I can grab the feat.
For those if you remember, this is for PFS.
Edit: There is a weapon that is d10 in the UE but it has a -1 to each attack. I'm trying to avoid that one and use a weapon proficiency feat instead.
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The only monk reach weapons are d6. That doesn't really matter for brawler's fury though, as brawlers flurry with close weapons, not monk weapons, and there are no close weapons with reach.
If it were for a monk instead of a brawler, the best option is to be a Sohei with weapon training in polearms, or worship a deity with a longspear or ranseur as the favored weapon and dip cleric for crusader's flurry.
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In the revised class playtest, it mentions, "...level, a brawler
can make a brawler’s f lurry as a full-attack action. When
doing so, a brawler has the Two-Weapon Fighting feat
when attacking with unarmed strikes, weapons from the
close fighter weapon group, or weapons with the “monk”
special feature."
I'm trying to get the most bang for my buck. Being size large will make a weapon larger and do more damage. It is much more exciting to go from a d8 to 2d6, or from a d10 to 2d8.
The idea of going from a d6 to d8 is a let down. I guess they are putting a cap on damage because of this issue.
The Hamatula feats from the Chiliax book require a Piercing weapon to use. The lunge feat is an option but this is the problem. You are not lunging when it is not your turn. That is one of the advantages of the Hamatula feats, when a creature provokes an AoO, stopping them in their tracks and holding the creature far away is big.
That is why I am looking for a monk, piercing, d8 or greater weapon both reach and not. It seems, there isn't a weapon that does that. I will have to rethink this character with UE or whatever I've got.
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Would take two feats for this to work, but could go with Boar Style and Boar Ferocity. Gives you the option of doing piercing with unarmed strikes. With the unarmed damage progression it would give you the d8 or better damage too.
Snake Style or Hamatulatsu give piercing on unarmed strikes with one feat and don't have the broken bleed damage of Boar Style.
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Ah Thanks, as you see, I really don't know much about the martial artist in Pathfinder. The Brawler is what I find that enthralls me.
Those new classes in the ACG to me they ROCK! There is a lot of synergy in those classes and I can see why they mixed them together.
like you, I hope they make amends to the rules in favor of those classes. We shall see what happens.
I swear a good chunk of the class' problems would simply disappear if they got weapons that weren't complete garbage.
If you changed that to "if they had a way to utilize their absurd movement speed and supposed tactical maneuverability that didn't take until level 12, and eat up roughly a fifth of their Ki every time they used it," you would also be correct.