Wrathful Mantle and toppling spell feat


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Question: as a cleric I cast wrathful mantle with two teammates beside. ( spell says can target by touch or all creatures 5ft from me). So the barbarian who just got wrathful mantle charges in and as a swift action detonates the armor for force damage. I have toppling spell feat and as it was my spell on the barbarian does the damage from the barbs mantle exploding still cause the mobs around him to drop prone?


For the record mob in the computer concept has no bearing on pathfinder it stands for mobile object. It is a coding term from diki muds. Sorry personal pet peeve.

As for your question it should work.


Thanks for the answer. This actually is a copy and paste question from Pathfinder RPG on Facebook. So, what his meaning was I don't know, I just assumed he pluralized mob. meaning a loud and unruly group of people.


The word Mob(s) is usually intended to mean weak enemies, but can be generalized to all enemies. It is commonly used when referring to video games, especially WoW.


That makes sense, I don't play MMORPG's like WoW. That would explain why I did not know that So, back to the original question. I have read many opinions on this and the following is the one that makes the most sense to me. Anyone have an opinion about it?

I'm pretty certain you can't; the Toppling Spell metamagic feat requires you to prepare it in conjunction with a force spell that targets a creature. The actual target of the spell are your allies, and the explosion effect of Wrathful Mantle does not target a creature; it's an area of effect. /quote


After looking at this further, as GM I would rule no.

As you mention Toppling Spell metamagic allows you a chance to trip the target of your spell. The target of the spell is your ally in the case of Wrathful Mantle. Unless you wanted to trip your ally, it wouldn't work against the enemies that are damaged by the premature ending of the spell.

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