| Zhayne |
Something mentioned off-handedly a while back on the boards ... been tinkering with it, but I'm trying to determine the most efficient (or more like 'least inefficient') way to go about it.
For those unfamiliar with the character, here's the primary ability list:
1. Agile/Acrobatic.
2. Good unarmed combatant.
3. Stealthy (ability to go invisible and/or teleport short distances?)
4. Crystal-based ranged attacks.
#4 requires DSP's psionics, since AFAIK there are no crystal-shooting spells. Unfortunately, the crystal powers are only on the Psion list, so I either need to take psion levels, or use Feats on acquiring off-class powers.
So, some combo of Psion/Monk/Psychic Fist (oh, the sucky BAB), or Psychic Warrior (Meditant) or Soulknife (Gifted Blade/Deadly Fist) ... thoughts?
| Zhayne |
You could also use psychic chirurgery to get crystal powers without burning feats.
It's a level 9 power ... I'd rather get that trademark ability a little earlier than that, if possible. :)
| Ipslore the Red |
If you use the spellcasting services cost, it'd cost 1,530 gp to pay someone else to cast it for you, and would be available at a metropolis. Of course, finding a specific psion capable of casting that and trustworthy enough not to mess with your brain, then convincing a high-level psion to waste 10 minutes and 17 pp for a relatively paltry sum of gold is likely to be much more difficult than simply going to a city.
Still probably easier than waiting until level 17.
| Zwordsman |
Furries everywhere will see this topic, and then fight over if Renamon is male or female.
Established as female officially. In the show, manga, games, and light novels. Just to nuke that insanity pathway.. ya'kno incase it does occur.
and I outed myself as a geeky kid who grew up on digimon, but not a furry. Just love digimon XD I tried making her as an eidolon before as well. It's difficult to do though; without GM fluffing various SLA
| Suma3da |
When it comes to anime it's hard to go wrong with a Synthesist Summoner. You can even do a digivolution(?) cutscene while you're doing the 1 minute suit up.
Though for Psionics I'd suggest taking a look at the Aegis class. It's basically a toned down Synthesist. Especially the Crystal Warrior archetype that comes with a built in crystal shooting ranged attacks. The Aberrant archetype could work as well. That starts off with some unarmed damage and just think of the Spikes customization option as shooting crystals.
| Taku Ooka Nin |
Taku Ooka Nin wrote:Furries everywhere will see this topic, and then fight over if Renamon is male or female.Are you trying to ruin the thread?
Nobody wants to discuss Futanari Furry Fanfiction here.
Bad form, my friend.
Lol, furries aren't all about sex you perv. Every now and again you find one who is asexual.
| Zhayne |
When it comes to anime it's hard to go wrong with a Synthesist Summoner. You can even do a digivolution(?) cutscene while you're doing the 1 minute suit up.
Though for Psionics I'd suggest taking a look at the Aegis class. It's basically a toned down Synthesist. Especially the Crystal Warrior archetype that comes with a built in crystal shooting ranged attacks. The Aberrant archetype could work as well. That starts off with some unarmed damage and just think of the Spikes customization option as shooting crystals.
Now that I did not know about. Thank you very much!
blackbloodtroll
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Lol, furries aren't all about sex you perv. Every now and again you find one who is asexual.
First off, yes. I cannot actually explain the full extent of my perversions on the Paizo Messageboards.
Second, I have never met this mysterious "asexual" furry.
Most I have met are very much the opposite, and some are down right aggressive about it. To the point that not only will they go into very unnecessary explicit detail, even when asked not to, they will also openly read sexual fanfiction, show you pornographic images(despite protests) and if you get openly upset, they will call you a bigot.
Seriously.
| Draco18s |
Taku Ooka Nin wrote:Furries everywhere will see this topic, and then fight over if Renamon is male or female.Established as female officially. In the show, manga, games, and light novels. Just to nuke that insanity pathway.. ya'kno incase it does occur.
In the show, Rika Nonaka's mother asked Renamon if Renamon was a girl. Renamon responded by saying that digimon don't have gender.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGbcHIcnCOc
So you know.
There is that.
And no, I haven't watched the show since 2002.
Most I have met are very much the opposite, and some are down right aggressive about it. To the point that not only will they go into very unnecessary explicit detail, even when asked not to, they will also openly read sexual fanfiction, show you pornographic images(despite protests) and if you get openly upset, they will call you a bigot.
Seriously.
Hey, I only do that at Iron Author! Where I'm forced to. Because I wrote a piece of fiction so awful I was banned forever and made a permanent judge of the contest.
(It wasn't even porn)
Also, I'm sorry those are the only furies you've met. :( They're not representative of the fandom at all. The only people who are vocal about it are precisely the people who shouldn't be.
| Draco18s |
Maybe the bad eggs are not the majority, but they are certainly the most vocal.
That's kind of the problem. And anyone willing to try and make people have a different opinion are the wrong people to do it. Which is why all the bad eggs end up on TV.
It runs the gamut though, for example http://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/17k30x/look_at_that_smile_story_in_the _comments/
Linking to the reddit copy as the FA page has like 10 billion comments and freezes my browser for several seconds. TL;DR: Dogbomb goes suiting in public on occasion. One day he ran across a girl alone in a wheel chair (born with cerebral palsy) at the beach and spent some time with her, really brightening her day.
| Adjule |
I haven't looked into the psionics stuff, but it does seem like the best path to go with for creating Renamon. And someone mentioning creating her (Renamon had a female voice in the show, so to me Renamon is female) as an eidolon... that would be something interesting to do, if you can find a GM that doesn't outright ban the class.
As for the whole digimon have no genders (I still remember that episode), I refuse to accept that. Why? Because Angewomon (plus Sakuyamon [renamon's mega form] also has a female body, and I think there was a male version as an alternate digivolution form, similar to Guilmon's 2 variant mega forms. Could be wrong but I swear I had a card of that).
Yes, I watched the show during my high school/college years. First 3 seasons, anyway. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Also, not all furries are like that, Blackbloodtroll. And most are reluctant to mention they are furries or have any form of association with it because people's immediate assumptions about the fandom are so vehemently negative due to TV and ESPECIALLY the internet (and even more specifically, the troll sites like 4chan and such). And then there are the cripplingly socially handicapped people like those you said you have come across. Of course, there are those kinds of people in every nerd fandom. Of course, the furry stereotype is the only nerd stereotype that goes against the universal one: furries are supposedly super sex-crazed people who bang each other all the time, where normal nerds are forever virgins.
But, that's enough derailing of Zhayne's thread. I think a kitsune Aegis (I think that's the class) may be the way to go. I know nothing about the psionic races, but I say kitsune because Renamon is a fox.
| Zhayne |
I think of the Digimon genders like Transformers 'genders'. Yeah, they're shaped in typically male or female shapes, but they don't reproduce sexually, so it's merely cosmetic.
Anyway ... the Synthesist and Aegis both look insanely complicated to me, and I'd feel dirty playing a Synthesist, so those are something of a last resort.
| Zwordsman |
Zwordsman wrote:Taku Ooka Nin wrote:Furries everywhere will see this topic, and then fight over if Renamon is male or female.Established as female officially. In the show, manga, games, and light novels. Just to nuke that insanity pathway.. ya'kno incase it does occur.In the show, Rika Nonaka's mother asked Renamon if Renamon was a girl. Renamon responded by saying that digimon don't have gender.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGbcHIcnCOc
So you know.
There is that.
And no, I haven't watched the show since 2002.
Yup, she did in the English, the Japanese was a lil less clear cut (vague answer and she often switchs gender tone language when she's acting nice to Rika). I'd be fine with that in most cases and in tamers. but in the manga,games, and the later anime they refer as a she and the renamons use female pronouns (though i haven't played the games or watched the anime after S4 in English so no clue). A renamon shows up in about half the later games and in the background of some series, since she was insanely popular in tamers.
On gender in general.. there are married digimon couples (well digivolutions that evolve into married couples.. no clue how that works.. at all...)
Though this is totally off course of the forum's point haha. But yeah having read the Aegis psionics that is pretty close, if you wanted to go with Season 4's human turn into digimon idea. Though I suppose you could choose a beast-like base class (kitsune maybe) and have it act more like a digivolution as mentioned above
I've tried making renamon or her evolution that I can't spell well, Kyuubimon in the summoner class. It's pretty easy except for her diamond storm. In home games could refluff some SLA into it, but its sadly very weak.
Looks like Aegis is the best bet for some stuff.
| Draco18s |
Yup, she did in the English, the Japanese was a lil less clear cut (vague answer and she often switchs gender tone language when she's acting nice to Rika). I'd be fine with that in most cases and in tamers. but in the manga,games, and the later anime they refer as a she and the renamons use female pronouns (though i haven't played the games or watched the anime after S4 in English so no clue). A renamon shows up in about half the later games and in the background of some series, since she was insanely popular in tamers.
Probably convenience. There isn't a gender-neutral pronoun that English speakers can agree on. Cursory research shows that Japanese doesn't either.
(I also don't care a whole lot, just that people tend to skip over that scene entirely as if it doesn't exist)Though this is totally off course of the forum's point haha.
Totally. :P
| Zwordsman |
Zwordsman wrote:Yup, she did in the English, the Japanese was a lil less clear cut (vague answer and she often switchs gender tone language when she's acting nice to Rika). I'd be fine with that in most cases and in tamers. but in the manga,games, and the later anime they refer as a she and the renamons use female pronouns (though i haven't played the games or watched the anime after S4 in English so no clue). A renamon shows up in about half the later games and in the background of some series, since she was insanely popular in tamers.Probably convenience. There isn't a gender-neutral pronoun that English speakers can agree on. Cursory research shows that Japanese doesn't either.
(I also don't care a whole lot, just that people tend to skip over that scene entirely as if it doesn't exist)Quote:Though this is totally off course of the forum's point haha.Totally. :P
Yup yup, had a funny argument as a kid about digimon and pokemon genders haha.
There isn't a set gender neutral in Japanese but there are gender centric, and a normative that is used by both genders. granted all are being used by all genders with the more recent decade or two and re becoming much less telling. It's an interesting lingustic process occurring world wide, favorite part of my ling class. Hard time understanding it though.On the actual buid
Look at aegis, the psychic marksmen thing (that i can't remember it's name but it makes psychich weapons ) and then a PRC that combines them both
You could choose the close range throwing blade, and some aegis abilities, and then progress whichever one suits you more for your vision of Renamon. It actually looks pretty solid there. both visually and ability wise