Large Chest - how to handle "if defeated"?


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This barrier seems to be tricky. In powers, it says "if defeated, add 1d4 random weapons from the box to your hand. I undefeated, you may banish this barrier".

Since it does not say so, I presume that upon defeating this barrier, a character will throw a dice, pick a few weapons from the box, and then... shuffle the card back in the location deck? I presume, this would be the normal handling of a barrier; but, isn't it a bit of a cheat in the game? You can have a character with decent Disable (say, Merisiel) rummage through the weapons box over several turns, collect all the magic weapons from the box, and then divide the plunder after the end of the scenario (not even necessarily winning it...)

Am I missing something about this Large Chest?


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EZpath wrote:

This barrier seems to be tricky. In powers, it says "if defeated, add 1d4 random weapons from the box to your hand. I undefeated, you may banish this barrier".

Since it does not say so, I presume that upon defeating this barrier, a character will throw a dice, pick a few weapons from the box, and then... shuffle the card back in the location deck? I presume, this would be the normal handling of a barrier; but, isn't it a bit of a cheat in the game? You can have a character with decent Disable (say, Merisiel) rummage through the weapons box over several turns, collect all the magic weapons from the box, and then divide the plunder after the end of the scenario (not even necessarily winning it...)

Am I missing something about this Large Chest?

If you defeat it, you banish it, just like any other bane.


First World Bard wrote:
EZpath wrote:

This barrier seems to be tricky. In powers, it says "if defeated, add 1d4 random weapons from the box to your hand. I undefeated, you may banish this barrier".

Since it does not say so, I presume that upon defeating this barrier, a character will throw a dice, pick a few weapons from the box, and then... shuffle the card back in the location deck? I presume, this would be the normal handling of a barrier; but, isn't it a bit of a cheat in the game? You can have a character with decent Disable (say, Merisiel) rummage through the weapons box over several turns, collect all the magic weapons from the box, and then divide the plunder after the end of the scenario (not even necessarily winning it...)

Am I missing something about this Large Chest?

If you defeat it, you banish it, just like any other bane.

Thanks for the clarification. I got totally confused by this card for some reason...


Probably just because is say "If undefeated, you may banish this barrier." That phrase gives you some options if you don't defeat it. You can banish it, so that the failure doesn't cost you an exploration. Or you can not banish it (it says "may") and give yourself another shot at it by shuffling it back into the deck like any other undefeated bane. Of course, that will cost you another exploration. So way your greed carefully.

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