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Hi everybody,
Our wizard has cast a phantasmal killer on an Erinyes. The Wizards bypass the SR, the Erinyes succed the will save and use her telepathy to retourn the spell against the Wizard. But her telepathy has a range of 100ft, and our wizard was at 120 ft of the Erinyes.
The spell phantasmal killer says that a creature with telepathy can turn the spell back, but does it work if the target is not in the range of the telepathy ?
Can the Erinyes turn the phantasmal killer against the wizard or not ???

Claxon |

First thing is first, the erinyes only gets to turn it back on the wizard if she succeeds on the will save for the spell. Also, did the wizard beat the spell resistance of the enrinyes in the first place?
However, assuming that is the case I believe the range is relevant. It seems like rule wise it would need to be within tlepathic range to reverse the effect into the wizards mind.
However, I would probably ignore the distance limitation on the erinyes and have it happen anyways. It something that is such a niche case, it's more interesting for her to turn it around on the wizard.

Dave Justus |

I would say that the range doesn't matter. It is the phantasmal killer spell that has created the 'link' between the two minds, the telepathy ability lets the victim jujitsu the spell back, but I view that as being based on 'mental skill' rather than telepathic range.
Strictly speaking by the condition is 'has telepathy' not has 'telepathy and is within range.'

fretgod99 |

I'd say the range of telepathy matters. The idea is (in my opinion) that you're resending the horrific mental image back at its caster. If you're out of range to transmit ordinary telepathic messages, I think you should be out of range to transmit the returned spell. YMMV.
I doubt it's actually explicitly covered anywhere, though. So expect table variation.