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Hey guys.
I'm pretty sure someone must have answered this before, but I can't find it anywhere, so here it is (probably) again.
When the Advanced Class Guide comes out, will you be able to apply an archetype to an existing character who's already past level 1? The additional resources page says:
You will be forced to update your character—adjusting only the features that have changed, not rebuilding entirely—once the Pathfinder RPG Advanced Class Guide is released.
so I'm not quite sure. Does the fact that there were no archetypes mean it's a feature that's changed, or does it only mean switching the ability it already had to the final version of it?
- Thanks, Key
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Even if you can't apply an archtype automatically, you would be able to add an archtype via the retraining rules. (I actually just spent a bucketload of prestige and gold to retrain a ranger into a demon hunter using a newly approved archtype.) In the case of the Advanced Classes...I played it safe and didn't play any of them past level 1 so that I could apply archtypes for certain.
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Probably not, any more than you were able to add new archetypes to your monk when Ultimate Combat was published. "Having an archetype" isn't a class feature.
You have a vanilla Slayer. When the book comes out, you'll be expected to adjust those class features that have changed (like the strength of an animal companion, or the sneak attack dice progression) to make a vanilla Slayer.
Probably not, any more than you were able to add new archetypes to your monk when Ultimate Combat was published. "Having an archetype" isn't a class feature.
You have a vanilla Slayer. When the book comes out, you'll be expected to adjust those class features that have changed (like the strength of an animal companion, or the sneak attack dice progression) to make a vanilla Slayer.
On the other hand, the player is rebuilding his character from scratch anyway. A monk was always a monk, and when a book comes out with new archetypes he doesn't have to change a his monk to be a monk. If when the ACG comes out he has to rebuild to play anyway(and attain/bring the appropriate book), then I wouldn't see a problem with him picking an archetype that helps make his character who he wants him to be. For all I know there's a slayer archetype more like the beta slayer.
Of course I'm not in charge of anything, so me not having a problem with it is really just opinion.
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No free rebuilds but you can take an archetype as long as it doesn't modify or replace any class features you already have. Here are some quotes for your viewing pleasure.
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Advanced Player's Guide
All playtest versions of the six new base classes from this book are no longer legal for play as of 8/3/10. Anyone playing the playtest version of one of the six new base classes must have updated his or her character as of 8/3/10. Updating your character means adjusting only the things that have changed, but not rebuilding the character.
I don't consider it "rebuilding" to choose an archetype that doesn't replace anything until levels higher than your character's current level. Rebuilding is being a level 6 fighter, for example, and deciding that phalanx soldier fits your concept better. At that point you're changing three significant details of the class and essentially becoming another class.
If you're a level 2 monk and decide drunken master is good for you, then you can choose it as the abilities don't start swapping out until 3rd level. You're not rebuilding the character as he exists, you're choosing to take him in a new (future) direction.
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I believe the guide states that as long as the archetype has not modified anything yet, you can apply it past 1st level.
But generally, Chris Mortika is correct.
It's not just in the guide, it's the rules:
Note that you don't have to use the retraining rules to take an archetype if your class level is low enough that the archetype doesn't modify any of your current class abilities. For example, if you're a 1st-level fighter who wants the archer archetype, that archetype doesn't replace any class abilities until fighter level 2, so you don't need to use the retraining rules at all—once you reach 2nd level, you can just decide to take the archer archetype.