So I am a huge Game of Thrones/SOIAF fan and I have been wanting to make a character based off of Gregor Clegane (at least in respect to his tremendous size and physicality, not so much in his utter lack of humanity). I am probably going to go for a basic fighter build but I really want him to be a large character. The books clock his height at about 7'11" and I plan on making it an even 8'0" for mine which is the minimum height for large creatures. I know that the Advanced Race Guide has rules for using Ogres but I don't like them as a race. I have an idea that of him being a human who has been blessed by Gorum with unnatural size/strength, but am not sure how to proceed from there. Any help/ideas would be really appreciated.
You should talk to your DM...Do you want to play a large race with all the rules benefits and disadvantages that entails? Or is this flavor text description?
-I played a 7'2" character and the DM didn't really care, especially as he would often cast enlarge person on himself and be a true 10 feet tall in combat.
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Half-Giant, although you'll wanna talk to your GM about trading out the psionic stuff for something else.
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You don't need to be Large, as Gregore was not (he was outreached by Oberyn with Lunge). Just maxed the Heigh/Weight stats for similarity porpouse.
I sugest you being a Helf-Ogre Two-Weapon Archetype Fighter. Half-Ogre is 3rd party tho.
But really, if you wanna take the Mountainto RP, try to get all of it, including the "flaws". In my oponion her alignement is LE (not a great planner of evil), he is loyal, but have a good share of evil when he can.
Maybe adapt Ogrekin to large size?
7'11" is still medium sized... you could just make a human and have him be that big. max his strength and maybe take the Bred for War trait and you'll be fine.
if you really want to be large sized just talk to your GM about using the race building rules from Advanced Race... if you make a human, drop the bonus feat, and add large size (with reach) that would be a 13 point race (iirc)- for reference, dwarves are 11 points and aasimar are 15.
After last week's episode, I was actually wondering if there was any way to do what he did mechanically in Pathfinder:
I would argue heavily that The Moutain is Chaotic Evil, he literally revels in destruction and causing suffering to others. He only follows Tywin because he has to, not out of any sense of loyalty.
The Mountain: CE Human Barbarian/Fighter with Diehard, Improved Sunder, and Power Attack always turned on.
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I would argue heavily that The Moutain is Chaotic Evil, he literally revels in destruction and causing suffering to others. He only follows Tywin because he has to, not out of any sense of loyalty.
What you described is Lawful evil. A chaotic person cares not about laws, Authority, or respect of persons. The mountain's Brother the Hound is Chaotic Neutral as he does not respect authority any longer "F$%@ the King" and all that Jazz.
A Lawful evil person can just as much enjoy Destruction and Causing suffering to others. Example is the Hell Knights. They enjoy bringing destruction...when ordered to do so...and Quiet enjoy Torturing victims.
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I would argue heavily that The Moutain is Chaotic Evil, he literally revels in destruction and causing suffering to others. He only follows Tywin because he has to, not out of any sense of loyalty.What you described is Lawful evil. A chaotic person cares not about laws, Authority, or respect of persons. The mountain's Brother the Hound is Chaotic Neutral as he does not respect authority any longer "F!&+ the King" and all that Jazz.
A Lawful evil person can just as much enjoy Destruction and Causing suffering to others. Example is the Hell Knights. They enjoy bringing destruction...when ordered to do so...and Quiet enjoy Torturing victims.
Alignment is subjective, but I still disagree with you. Gregor doesn't have any respect for the law at all. He follows Tywin's orders because doing so allows him greater access to more destruction (and probably because he's smart enough to know that anyone who defies Tywin ends up defeated/destroyed).
2) The story that Polliver tells--in a sour mood after losing the above joust, Gregor and his cronies stay in an inn. The lackeys start grabbing the innkeeper's young daughter and call her "whore" and other awful things. When the owner petitions Gregor to act according to his "knightly" duties and defend his daughter's honor, Gregor rapes the girl. This is not lawful.
3) As Oberyn made clear, Gregor raped and murdered Elia and murdered her children. This is chaotic, not lawful. And please don't say that he was ordered to do so, so he's lawful. A lawful person doesn't follow an unjust order. Would a paladin be forced to murder Elia if he was ordered to do so? No.
Anyone miss Season 1 Mountain? He looked a lot less stable.
I also agree that Gregor is CE, he follows Tywin because Tywin enables him.
As for CdG a pinned opponent, well, this is kinda close.
Mbauers, while we are definitely on the same page regarding the mountains alignment, your 3rd point I would say is the difference between good and evil, rather than law and chaos. A paladin wouldnt do that moreso because hes good rather than because hes lawful, whereas a lawful evil person would murder Elia as ordered. What LE wouldn't do is gleefully torture her children, then rape and torture Elia (in addition to just killing her), that's definitely what CE would do though. And lets not forget he permanently scarred his brothers face for playing with his toys, chaotic evil. Tywin on the otherhand is the epitome of lawful evil, the perfect example for all LE stands for.
7'11" is still medium sized... you could just make a human and have him be that big. max his strength and maybe take the Bred for War trait and you'll be fine.
if you really want to be large sized just talk to your GM about using the race building rules from Advanced Race... if you make a human, drop the bonus feat, and add large size (with reach) that would be a 13 point race (iirc)- for reference, dwarves are 11 points and aasimar are 15.
Yeah I think this will be my best option. If I was playing a straight up version of him from the show or books I would probably just make him an ogre since that would be the easiest way to represent such an immoral bastard like Gregor. But like I said I am going more for the look of a huge armored warrior than anything else and a modified human would work best. Do you think I should keep the bonus feat and instead drop the additional skill point since they are both worth 4RP? Or would that be too OP?
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I think he is within the limits of human with rolled stats. 18 is pretty much the epitome of natural human gifts, and he essentially lucked at chargen :) .
Ironically, I'm seeing him as a somewhat typical NE character. He can exist within a relatively strict hierarchy without much trouble when it fits him, but he doesn't really care for it much. He can follow orders well enough... but when he has free reign, he will be as vile as he wants to get what he wants.
Classwise, I'm leaning towards the Unbreakable fighter, though he can probably work as a iron hulk barbarian too.
Do you think I should keep the bonus feat and instead drop the additional skill point since they are both worth 4RP? Or would that be too OP?
Yeah... That's exactly why I suggested dropping the feat- I know the feat and skill point are the same RP cost (and feat probably makes more sense than skills for the mountain) but being large sized with reach and getting a bonus feat would be pretty badass and some GMs might just say no to the whole idea if it seems to OP...