
Chooky |
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Since there isn't a proper list of Fighter Archetypes that are compatible with the Gloves of Dueling, I thought I'll step up and finally start this list.
This is all as per RAW, since the FAQ ruling has decided:
1) The name of the Class Feature does not matter
2) The functional similarities of the Class Feature does not matter
3) Must reference the original Class Feature
The real killer of Gloves of Dueling for most of the archetype is the Archer Example in the FAQ, where it specifically states that even if the ability's game mechanics work the same as original W.T, it doesn't mean it counts as the same Class Feature.
Disclaimer: As stated before, this is only by RAW. I don't really see any balance issues why you wouldn't let the Gloves work for the other archetypes with a similar Weapon Training Feature.
WORKS WITH GLOVES
- Does not replace Weapon Training
Corsair
Dervish of Dawn
Gladiator
Lore Warden
Thunderstriker
Trench Fighter
Weapon Bearer Squire
- Must Select Specific Weapon as Weapon Training
Dragoon
Two-Handed Fighter
Foehammer
- Only replaces Weapon Training 1, not 2,3 or 4
Swordlord
Tactician
DOES NOT WORK WITH GLOVES
Archer
Armor Master
Brawler
Cad
Crossbowman
Free Hand Fighter
Mobile Fighter
Phalanx Soldier
Polearm Master
Roughrider
Savage Warrior
Shielded Fighter
Tower Shield Specialist
Two-Weapon Warrior
Unbreakable
Viking
Airborne Ambusher
Cavern Sniper
Swarm Fighter
QUESTIONABLE RAI/REQUIRES FAQ
Buckler Duelist: Doesn't say anything about replacing Weapon Training 2,3,4
Unarmed Fighter: Weapon Training not referenced
Weapon Master: Weapon Training not referenced
The ones in question would be Unarmed Fighter as the replaced Class Feature is also called Weapon Training, but does not reference the original W.T. in any way thus making it non-compatible with the Gloves. The same can be said with Weapon Master, as it replaces Armour Training with something similar to W.T but again does not reference the original W.T. in any way.
Buckler Duelist by RAW doesn't lose Weapon Training 2,3,4 therefore allowing it to use the Gloves. Whether or not by RAI it is supposed to lose the rest of the Weapon Training is another issue altogether.
Hope that helps!

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Unarmed Fighter and Weapon Master won't have any problems because their ability is actually called "Weapon Training" and they are fighters.
The Buckler Duelist acquires "vanilla" Weapon Training at 9th -- meaning that if he takes Heavy Blades as his WT group, its bonus will stack with the class's Strong Swing feature provided he uses a falcata. At 9th, he'd be +4/+4 att/dmg with a falcata while wearing GoD, and +5/+5 at 10th as Strong Swing go up a notch.
(If anybody thinks that's wrong, or correct but broke and in need of revision, give the FAQ button on your right a healthy smack, will yah?)