Any chaotic good Knowledge deities?


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A question for those more familiar with the gods of Golarion than I: Are there any chaotic good deities or demigods with the Knowledge domain?

A religious order of archivists in my setting, rather than worshiping a single god, pays homage to a pantheon of knowledge deities, each representing a different aspect of knowledge -- the "Nine Gods of Lore." I had hoped to have one representative from each alignment, but curiously enough, I can't find any chaotic good deities with that domain.

Have I missed one? And if none in fact exist, does anyone have ideas for what such a deity might be like?


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The first phrase that comes to mind is "Information wants to be free!"

EDIT: And the second is "Beware of he who seeks to deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."

NEW EDIT: Bergelmir, "Mother of Memories," CG Giant goddess of elders, family, and genealogy. Chaos, Community, Good, Knowledge.

Silver Crusade

Bergelmir, Giantish Deity of Elders, Family and Genealogy.
offers Chaos, Community, Good and Knowledge domains

aka, what he said

Now how to have a PC worshiping a giant deity....

However, if you're going for a cleric not going for any perstige classes your options do open up.

If you're CG...

you can have

NG
Bharnarol, the Tempered Inventor
Eritrice, Heart-Speaker
Qi Zhong
Yuelral

CN
Calastria
Yog-Sothoth


Hmm. Didn't realize Bergelmir existed! Her presence is noted, but I don't think her portfolio fits this pantheon of lore particularly well.

Perhaps there's room for a new CG goddess of knowledge! I like Lurker's second suggestion:

Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
"Beware of he who seeks to deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."

Such a deity could represent "knowledge that liberates," "speaking truth to power," and other similarly emancipatory functions of knowledge. But she might not agree with the idea that "information wants to be free," instead believing that information is a tool with which to make people free. Perhaps her worshipers might spread literacy: teaching slaves to read and write, copying books and distributing them for free, establishing and maintaining libraries, et cetera.

Calistria, Eritrice, and Yog-Sothoth are all part of this pantheon already; the others (Bharnarol, Qi Zhong, Yuelral) are candidates as well.


Why not "create" one or more? A high-end Mythic character with Divine Source could have the Knowledge domain, after all. Perhaps he/she was the original founder of your order (and set things up so that besides them, there were representatives of the other alignments as well), and has now moved on to other things somewhere in the multiverse (a quest to obtain further knowledge seems clear, but may also be a bit obvious), but can still provide the necessary divine power.


aetherwisp wrote:

Hmm. Didn't realize Bergelmir existed! Her presence is noted, but I don't think her portfolio fits this pantheon of lore particularly well.

Perhaps there's room for a new CG goddess of knowledge! I like Lurker's second suggestion:

Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
"Beware of he who seeks to deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."

Such a deity could represent "knowledge that liberates," "speaking truth to power," and other similarly emancipatory functions of knowledge. But she might not agree with the idea that "information wants to be free," instead believing that information is a tool with which to make people free. Perhaps her worshipers might spread literacy: teaching slaves to read and write, copying books and distributing them for free, establishing and maintaining libraries, et cetera.

Calistria, Eritrice, and Yog-Sothoth are all part of this pantheon already; the others (Bharnarol, Qi Zhong, Yuelral) are candidates as well.

A knowledge cult of Milani the Everbloom then? One helping the oppressed through liberating knowledge.

Grand Lodge

aetherwisp wrote:

A question for those more familiar with the gods of Golarion than I: Are there any chaotic good deities or demigods with the Knowledge domain?

A religious order of archivists in my setting, rather than worshiping a single god, pays homage to a pantheon of knowledge deities, each representing a different aspect of knowledge -- the "Nine Gods of Lore." I had hoped to have one representative from each alignment, but curiously enough, I can't find any chaotic good deities with that domain.

Have I missed one? And if none in fact exist, does anyone have ideas for what such a deity might be like?

A chaotic god of knowledge is rather hard to imagine. You don't learn much if you're not of the habit of being disciplined, methodical, and keeping your books in order.

Grand Lodge

LazarX wrote:
aetherwisp wrote:

A question for those more familiar with the gods of Golarion than I: Are there any chaotic good deities or demigods with the Knowledge domain?

A religious order of archivists in my setting, rather than worshiping a single god, pays homage to a pantheon of knowledge deities, each representing a different aspect of knowledge -- the "Nine Gods of Lore." I had hoped to have one representative from each alignment, but curiously enough, I can't find any chaotic good deities with that domain.

Have I missed one? And if none in fact exist, does anyone have ideas for what such a deity might be like?

A chaotic god of knowledge is rather hard to imagine. You don't learn much if you're not of the habit of being disciplined, methodical, and keeping your books in order.

My bard would have words with you, sir.

Liberty's Edge

LazarX wrote:
A chaotic god of knowledge is rather hard to imagine. You don't learn much if you're not of the habit of being disciplined, methodical, and keeping your books in order.

Every erratic genius the world has ever known begs to disagree with you. As does Richard Feynman, who while not especially erratic IMO, was clearly Chaotic aligned, if you've read anything about him.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

The domains of the azata lord Aizen Miyo (nicknamed the Red Wisdom) haven't been detailed according tot he pathfinder wiki http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Aizen_Myo-o The Wiki also puts a link in the entry to a real world god this azata lord was apparently based upon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C4%81gar%C4%81ja Given the description, it's perhaps plausible that he could have the Knowledge domain.

Another option would be to use the archetypes to make a splinter or subgroup in the deity's church structure. A Separatist archetype splinter group of the faith might be an option. Desna would seem to be a natural candidate for this- perhaps a subgroup of her faithful would seek to delve deep into knowledge of the outer cosmos to a degree her main faith might find discomforting. Another option would be the cloistered cleric which have many abilities that effectively duplicate the effects of the knowledge domain.

If you want to go with an entirely god, why not design ahead of time one of your own "Iron Gods" since they seem to be an emerging phenomena (provided you are not opposed to super-science in your fantasy).

The CG alignment is not necessarily at odds with a deity of knowledge. Innovation and questioning/skepticism of existing doctrine/dogma are often key elements of scholarship and invention. A new CG knowledge may emphasize these aspects.


LazarX wrote:
A chaotic god of knowledge is rather hard to imagine. You don't learn much if you're not of the habit of being disciplined, methodical, and keeping your books in order.

As a man with multiple postgraduate degrees in finance and engineering, let me just say... nope.

When it comes to learning, passion counts for more than discipline.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Hmm, in Pathfinder Ogma (aka Oghma) is defined as an azata lord with an undefined portfolio/domains. http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Ogma

D&D has traditionally depicted Oghma as a god of knowledge.


LazarX wrote:
aetherwisp wrote:

A question for those more familiar with the gods of Golarion than I: Are there any chaotic good deities or demigods with the Knowledge domain?

A religious order of archivists in my setting, rather than worshiping a single god, pays homage to a pantheon of knowledge deities, each representing a different aspect of knowledge -- the "Nine Gods of Lore." I had hoped to have one representative from each alignment, but curiously enough, I can't find any chaotic good deities with that domain.

Have I missed one? And if none in fact exist, does anyone have ideas for what such a deity might be like?

A chaotic god of knowledge is rather hard to imagine. You don't learn much if you're not of the habit of being disciplined, methodical, and keeping your books in order.

You should see my desk at the university where I work.

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