intimidating prowess and divine power


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Hello!

I am hoping for some opinions on whether divine power stacks with the bonuses provided via the feat intimidating prowess. Also it has come up in our group discussion that if indeed it does stack, that armor check penalties might need to be assigned.

I think the difference in wording of strength modifier and bonus to strength are where I am getting hung up. A bonus to your strength would increase your modifier technically, but it isn't worded in a way that we can get a clear ruling, especially since intimidate is cha based.

Thanks for any insight any of you might have.

Is this RAW vs RAI, or am I just overly hopeful?

Intimidating Prowess (Combat)

Your physical might is intimidating to others.

Benefit: Add your Strength modifier to Intimidate skill checks in addition to your Charisma modifier.

Divine Power

School evocation; Level cleric 4

Casting Time 1 standard action

Components V, S, DF

Range personal

Target you

Duration 1 round/level

Calling upon the divine power of your patron, you imbue yourself with strength and skill in combat. You gain a +1 luck bonus on attack rolls, weapon damage rolls, Strength checks, and Strength-based skill checks for every three caster levels you have (maximum +6). You also gain 1 temporary hit point per caster level. Whenever you make a full-attack action, you can make an additional attack at your full base attack bonus, plus any appropriate modifiers. This additional attack is not cumulative with similar effects, such as haste or weapons with the speed special ability.

Grand Lodge

"Strength-based skill checks" and "a skill check you happen to get a bonus from strength on" are not the same thing. Divine Power wouldn't give a boost to Intimidate in this case, because it's still a Charisma-based skill that just happens to be getting a bonus from Strength due to a feat.


Jeff Merola wrote:
"Strength-based skill checks" and "a skill check you happen to get a bonus from strength on" are not the same thing. Divine Power wouldn't give a boost to Intimidate in this case, because it's still a Charisma-based skill that just happens to be getting a bonus from Strength due to a feat.

This is correct.

Now, if it were a feat or trait or feature that caused you to add strength *instead* of charisma, then you could argue that it is strength-based. However, as it stands, it is not.

Sczarni

Intimidating Prowess is not a replacement effect, like Pragmatic Activator or Wisdom in the Flesh.

If something temporarily increases your Strength, you temporarily gain the bonus to Intimidate, but you won't suffer ACP penalties.

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