So I've recently had a PC pass their expiration date for raise dead and will need to be resurrected. Problem is that they'll need to find a 13+ level cleric just to cast it on them and those are truly hard to find.
The party is in Katapesh so they could buy a scroll in the markets (though without a cleric and only at level 6, they'd still have to find someone capable of using it.) I found a thread for high level clerics in Varisia, but wondered if anyone knows of any uber-clerics in Garund.
Other than the Pharaoh of Osirion that is. He seems pretty selective on who he resurrects.
Any level cleric would be able to cast the spell, regardless of their level, if it's from a scroll, albeit with a check if they are lower level.
Activate the Spell: Activating a scroll requires reading the spell from the scroll. The character must be able to see and read the writing on the scroll. Activating a scroll spell requires no material components or focus. (The creator of the scroll provided these when scribing the scroll.) Note that some spells are effective only when cast on an item or items. In such a case, the scroll user must provide the item when activating the spell. Activating a scroll spell is subject to disruption just as casting a normally prepared spell would be. Using a scroll is like casting a spell for purposes of arcane spell failure chance.
To have any chance of activating a scroll spell, the scroll user must meet the following requirements.
-The spell must be of the correct type (arcane or divine). Arcane spellcasters (wizards, sorcerers, and bards) can only use scrolls containing arcane spells, and divine spellcasters (clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers) can only use scrolls containing divine spells. (The type of scroll a character creates is also determined by his class.)
-The user must have the spell on her class list.
-The user must have the requisite ability score.If the user meets all the requirements noted above, and her caster level is at least equal to the spell's caster level, she can automatically activate the spell without a check. If she meets all three requirements but her own caster level is lower than the scroll spell's caster level, then she has to make a caster level check (DC = scroll's caster level + 1) to cast the spell successfully. If she fails, she must make a DC 5 Wisdom check to avoid a mishap (see Scroll Mishaps). A natural roll of 1 always fails, whatever the modifiers. Activating a scroll is a standard action (or the spell's casting time, whichever is longer) and it provokes attacks of opportunity exactly as casting a spell does.
If anyone in your party can gather info, now's the time.
FWIW, Katapesh is officially a metropolis. As per the Settlement rules, spellcasting services up to level 8 are generally available.
Hence it should be no more difficult to buy a resurrection than to buy a beer. Just go to the Chartered High-level-spellcasting Company.
Your GM may want to make dealing with them an adventure (it's always nice to have adventure hooks, although I find it's rather poor form to make someone wait until an adventure has been completed to get his character back). But simple accessibilty? No problem.
Katapesh is one of the largest and most diverse cities in the Inner Sea region, so it's entirely possible that there could be a 13th level Cleric around. The resident Archbanker of Abadar is probably your best bet, assuming you're not in trouble with the law.
I was just wondering if anyone had seen any listing for a high level cleric in Garund.
There are two name level clerics of Abadar in Katapesh (from Dark Markets): Aakif Ashad, overseer of the Temple of Measured Weights and Jamal Abdul-Abadar, the Master of the Vault at the Immaculate Repository. Both are only 7th level.
There are a pair of 8th level clerics of Gozreh on Okeno and Sarenrae's church in Solku is lead by a paladin.
I think the problem's been resolved in my game as the corpse can be gentle reposed just in time so it can still be raised.
It was more just an exercise to see where all those high level cleric scrolls might be coming from. There was a nice list of high level casters in Inner Sea Magic. It might be nice to have a list of arch-priests around the Inner Sea as well. I don't suppose we'll see that in the new Gods book.
Ah, thanks Deadmanwalking. I have that book and indeed there are a number of high level clerics- Ipeq has a Clr 12, Shiman-sekh Clr11, Sothis Clr 14 and 15, An and Totra Clr 17.
It certainly makes sense that Osirian would have very high level priests for the Garundi native gods.
I don't think Dark Markets is showing its age with lower level priest. Katapesh has never really been a spiritual hub aside from some exiled followers of Sarenrae so why would it have particularly high level priests.
It would have high level priests because it's a high-population settlement. A metropolis, in fact.
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I don't think Dark Markets is showing its age with lower level priest. Katapesh has never really been a spiritual hub aside from some exiled followers of Sarenrae so why would it have particularly high level priests.
Neither is Sothis. And yet it has them, and Katapesh is double Sothis's size.
And Dark Markets has no high level characters of an class (despite it being made clear Katapesh has such folk), which is where it's showing it's age.
Sothis is the capitol of one of the oldest civilization in Golarion and the origin of worship of gods like Nethys, and possibly Pharasma and Gozreh, as well as a center for Sarenrae with the Keleshite invasion.
Katapesh was a historical backwater until the Pactmasters came around to set up a trade hub relatively recently.
Where are you going to find higher level clergy- Vatican City or Phoenix, AZ?
I think uber-high level characters ought to be rare and I'm taking into account the history and culture of the cities as well.
Where are you going to find higher level clergy- Vatican City or Phoenix, AZ?
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Phoenix, probably. The high level clergy at the Vatican are too busy running a world-wide organization to tend to the immediate flock. While the Pope might be there (if he's not at Castelo Gandolpho), you're not going to find him there unless you're a head of state or something.
Phoenix, on the other hand, is a large enough city to have a steady demand for high-level spellcasting services available to the general public.
I think uber-high level characters ought to be rare and I'm taking into account the history and culture of the cities as well.
You can make any house rules you like -- you can decide that no one in the world is higher than level 6, if you like. Just be aware that there are, in fact, rules as written about the general availability of spellcasting services as an aspect of settlement size. And these rules were written specifically because it's no fun not being able to play because your party is broken, and therefore no fun if there are no spellcasters for hire to fix your broken party.
To quote from your opening post, "Problem is that they'll need to find a 13+ level cleric just to cast it on them and those are truly hard to find." The designers knew that if 13+ level clerics were hard to find, that would truly be a problem. So they made rules stating that, no 13+ level characters aren't that hard to find in large cities.
If you want to house-rules to create a problem for yourself and your party, my sympathies are limited.
Um, have you lived in PHX? ; )
As stated this is just a thought exercise for me,
not- "you're doing it wrong."
Actually, the named priests from what I'm seeing for Garund in the source books fits my thesis pretty well in that the highest level clerics are in the major cities in Osirion which have a long lived religious tradition. If anything I was arguing that Dark Markets' lack of higher level priests is fine.
Smaller towns and less religious metropolises usually have named priests that top out around level 7. I would think of these as more established, cloistered clergy than adventurers though.
If you're just going by population for spell availability then sure, a mega-market like Katapesh would likely have adventurer-type wandering clerics that could cast whatever for you.
As for personal preference, sure it's my personal preference to make things more difficult interesting for my players and a quest to resurrect someone might be kinda fun. YMMV. In Katapesh maybe somehow procuring a wish from a genie is the only way to go if high level clerics are so rare.
If you have bigger fish to fry then resurrect and move on.
It's all good.
Yeah, that is a concern. We've worked it so her spirit is lingering and able to partially
possess people so she still has something to do with the haunting and all. The player also enjoys describing what is happening to the corpse rotting in the bag of holding...
In short, the player still posts more than anyone else!
I wouldn't extend it too long though. I do enjoy incorporating details from the sourcebooks where possible thus the question and its been a good way to get the characters moving to the next location in the big city.
I also have an idea for a quest to resurrect the lost love of a reoccurring NPC.