magus weapon question

[nekoyami]

I was reading thru
this
And saw..

"Magus Tripper
Class:Magus(12) (Guisarme)
Race: Human..."

How would this be viable? Magus can only use 1h weapons while using their abilities. Or am I missing something?

[nekoyami]

Bump

[Rerednaw]

What's the rest of the thread/post? A magus loses spellstrike and spell combat...but he's still proficient was martial weapons. So he certainly can use a glaive...

[nekoyami]

Quote:

Magus Tripper
Class:Magus(12) [Guisarme]
Race: Human
Ability Scores at lvl 12:
(Assume 20 pt. build)
Str: 18 (5)
Dex: 20 (10)
Con: 10 (0)
Int: 16 (5) (purchase a +2 Int item by 12th lvl)
Wis: 10 (0)
Cha: 10 (0)
1: Magus (1): Combat Expertise ; Improved Trip
2: Magus (2):
3: Magus (3): Combat Reflexes; Magus Arcana (Maneuver Mastery: Trip)
4: Magus (4):
5: Magus(5): Fury’s Fall; bonus feat: Weapon Focus (Guisarme)
6: Magus (6): Magus Arcana (Close Range)
7: Magus (7): Power Attack
8: Magus (8): ---
9: Magus (9): Greater Trip; Magus Arcana (Arcane Accuracy)
10: Magus (10) ---
11: Magus (11): bonus feat: Combat Specialization (Guisarme); Improved Critical (Guisarme)
12: Magus (12): Magus Arcana (Empowered Magic)
CMB Trip at lvl 8: 8BAB (Maneuver Mastery) + 2 Magic Wpn + 2 Improved Trip +
+ 4 Str + 5 Dex (Fury’s Fall) + 1 Wpn Focus = 22
CMB Trip at lvl 12: 12BAB (Maneuver Mastery) + 2 Magic Wpn + 2 Improved Trip + 2 Greater Trip + 1 Wpn Focus + 4 Str + 5 Dex (Fury’s Fall) = 28
Spells: Magus 1st lvl: 6; 2nd lvl: 6; 3rd lvl 5; 4th lvl 3
Note: Magus Arcana (Maneuver Mastery) grants Magus full BAB for 1 selected combat maneuver. Expend a point from magic pool to use Magus Arcana (Arcane Accuracy) which grants all attacks Intelligence bonus until end of round. Ofcourse, this will increase her CMB trip.
Comments: Magus will want an Enlarge Person wand (2nd lvl) as backup to her spells.
Pros: She trip opponents from 20 feet when enlarged. Moderate offensive spell casting ability. Able to wear medium armour from 7th level. Good synergy of ability points for spells and to qualify for combat expertise.
Cons: Not the highest CMB but passable. Cannot wear heavy armour until 13th level.
Secondary Role: Reasonable secondary role through use of spells, especially offensive arcane spells which she can deliver with range touch or melee touch attacks through her weapon at 20 feet away when she is enlarged.

[Mojorat]

Its giving up probably the maguss strongest ability to be battlefield controll.

[Daenar]

Can you even take combat expertise at lvl 1 with +0 Bab?

[Conundrum]

Yes it appears one can. Hmm, can't remember everything I guess.

[Rerednaw]

Ah okay, I thimk I understand the question(s).
Yes the magus can deliver his touch spells via a glaive. That's spellstrike. What he cannot do is Spell Combat with the glaive (i.e. cast + swing)

Also a magus, like most 2/3 BAB classes is not the best at combat maneuvers.

It is a long wait levelling up till the build is realized...but by then tripping many foes is not really optimal and he has better things he could be doing instead. Not to say it is a horrible idea or concept. Just not optimal or really geared towards his main strength, the action economy breakage of spell combat.

[nekoyami]

OK, thank you for the clarification :-)

[stuart haffenden]

I think the build is different but it'll do the trip thing very well.

You could always have a sheathed weapon that does qualify for spell combat and draw it was part of a move action, dropping the guisarme as a free, to use spell combat when the situation is right. No need to put all your eggs in one basket.

If you intend on using enlarge person regularly you can use a normal Magus weapon and still be able to spell combat at 10ft away and trip.