Noqual and alchemist ?


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Dark Archive

I have a PFS player ask me yesterday about his alchemist buying a breastplate of Noqual ore

would the noqual interfere with extracts?

i would assume no since they act as potions- not as a cast spell

thoughts?

or does drinking the extract count as the " casting"?

Grand Lodge

Yes, yes because what Noqual interferes with are magical effects. Extracts are magical effects even if they aren't spells. If an Anti-Magic field would affect what you're asking about, so would Nouqual.


I find I disagree. As much as many people want infusion to count as spellcasting, even the creator of the class, it is not considered that in PFS. Noqual only gives a 20% spell failure to casting spells.

Given the expense of Noqual vs. Mithril (3k/4k/3k more for light/medium/heavy armor, equal for weapons), and the additional 5000gp if you ever enchant it, it's really not much of an issue.

In a home game, where alchemists count as spellcasters (for taking feats and such), then yes it would have to apply then as well.


First, just to alleviate my confusion: Is there a special chronicle sheet allowing noqual items?
EDIT: Oh I guess if you're running the AP Shattered Star for PFS it's ok. Haven't done PFS in a while.

Second: Does noqual also affect spellcasting that doesn't have somatic components? Arcane spell failure chance only affects arcane spells with somatic components. The rules of noqual state that, "The [noqual] armor’s spell failure chance increases by 20% and applies to all magic cast while wearing the armor, regardless of the magic’s source or class abilities possessed by the wearer." Does the "all magic cast" part means it's a specific vs general ruling here or does the somatic component general rule still apply for spell failure chance?

Third: The FAQ was pretty clear that as written, alchemist's extracts isn't spellcasting. If noqual doesn't affect magic item use such as potions or wands, then it shouldn't affect extracts.

Grand Lodge

Protoman wrote:

First, just to alleviate my confusion: Is there a special chronicle sheet allowing noqual items?

Yes.

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