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I'm new to PFS and I realized that you're set to a limited number of possible gold by the time you go through each level by having 3 opportunities. I'm still trying to learn the tier lists and when to apply the benefits I earned from sessions and stuff in which I had to play a higher level pregen, but I am looking for tips on selecting sessions for maximum GP.
From what I understand, if the game session is made to be a higher difficulty, and I am not in that level bracket, then I am awarded the average of the two tiers, correct? So, if I can get sessions and always get the higher tier offered than what would normally be offered by players of my level, then I have an opportunity to gain more GP.
It seems from my sheets that the GP at the end of the game is completely dependent on what session you play. Is there more to it, like what level characters are offered? Example, all 1-3 games will result in the same GP depending on the GM having the easier or harder game, or is it completely session to session?
I want to definately have fun playing every session I can, but I do want to make sure my character has the ability to gear up pretty nice.
Also, I just recently played a Pregen character of level 7, and I believe the game was 5-9. Can I apply my rewards at level 7, or at level 5?
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You can 'milk the system' to maximise the gold you get, but the rigidity of tier selection is a lot more strictly controlled than it used to be, and the rewards for playing up are lower, precisely because of people gaming the system in this way. You'll be ahead of the normal wealth tier and find the game easier (and probably less rewarding/fun) than if you just aim to play in tier when possible. And your fellow players may get annoyed with your antics of constantly bringing lower-level PCs (that they feel honour-bound to protect) to games.
Also, I just recently played a Pregen character of level 7, and I believe the game was 5-9. Can I apply my rewards at level 7, or at level 5?
As soon as you hit level 7, getting the 'out of tier' rewards (average of the two subtiers).
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If the scenario is 1-4, you cannot play a 5.
If the scenario is 1-7 (which is a thing from earlier seasons) and play a tier 1-4 (which isn't) with a level 5 then you average the 1-4 reward with the 5-7 (presumably) reward.
Most scenarios will have this prefigured.
Out of tier gold works both ways. In a 1-5 scenario (which would have a 1-2 Tier & 4-5 Tier) there'll be three rewards:
1-2 Tier reward (for Level 1-2 PCs playing at 1-2)
Out of Tier reward (for level 1-2 PCs playing at 4-5, level 3 PCs playing at either tier, and level 4-5 PCs playing at Tier 1-2)
4-5 Tier reward (for level 4-5 PCs playing at Tier 4-5)
So you could piggyback with higher level PCs, but that'll just make it harder for you now (and them!), even if it nets you more gold to make it easier later.
PFS isn't that hard. You shouldn't need to milk the g.p.
If you really want to get the most out of your sessions you should focus on playing the adventures that get the most praise, or which appear to suit your PC's theme (like maritime for your pirate).
The only effective way to "game the system's g.p." is by using PP to get your consumables and saving gold to get your permanent items.
Or to be Qadiran. :)
Cheers
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Honestly over the play career of your character, the difference in gold between playing normal and out of tier is not going to be enough to justify the effort involved in deliberately gaming the system.
Just play, have fun, and don't bother stressing out over a little extra gold. Even without it most builds will end up with about as much as they need.
-j
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The tiers are more or less locked these days. The only way to finagle the system really is to wind up exactly between the average party levels, or when you have multiple characters decide whether to play one that will send the party up or down...
Mind you, this means that the person who effectively decides up or down by playing a certain character is probably not going to be the one that reaps the benefits. If you play the highest character you can you're only getting the proper amount of gold. if you pay the lower one you're probably bringing the party down so you don't get out of tier gold.
It IS finagleable, but its a group effort and really not worth it.
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I've done it twice, and it
I left it completely up to the other players to decide. We played up, and the results were pretty fun. If anyone wants to be angry with me asking what others would prefer, then that's silly.
With the gp I have now, I can afford a lot more than my friend can, but I think I'll be more relaxed on gaming the system and just asking what others would prefer.
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I've done it twice, and it
I left it completely up to the other players to decide. We played up, and the results were pretty fun. If anyone wants to be angry with me asking what others would prefer, then that's silly.With the gp I have now, I can afford a lot more than my friend can, but I think I'll be more relaxed on gaming the system and just asking what others would prefer.
Bear in mind that under season 5 rules, there are very few circumstances where the players get to decide which tier they play in; it's usually fixed, and based on a calculation involving the average level of the PCs and the number of players. See the 'Determining Subtiers' section on page 31 of the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organised Play.
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It makes you wonder if the new Living campaign (for dnd next or 5e or whatever you wanna call it) will have the same issues with gaming for gold (like we used to have).
In my second Living Grayhawk game, I played my level 1 rogue in an APL 10 game (Hunt for the Rogue, ironically). Sure I got 1/2 XP , but I got full gp. So I was able to buy my +1 chain shirt right away.
To answer your question directly, this has been an issue in living campaigns for quite awhile. If there is a system to be gamed, it'll be gamed.