Discern Location - Greater Teleport


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Does the discern location spell provide enough information for a greater teleport spell to work to that location? Or does spellcaster still have to scry or research the area?


Yes, it's basically Scrying on steroids.


Not automatically. It does not reveal visual information required to teleport, greater or otherwise. You would need to scry. BUT - if you have been there yourself, at least seen once, then you could teleport -- if you are in range.

If you have nearby awareness, you could teleport to the nearby place. For example, you know a person you seek is in Emerald City, on the third floor or the Red Inn, on Baker street. You have never been to the Red Inn, not sure where baker Street is, but have been to Emerald City. Assuming you are in range, you teleport to the place you know and then seek out your quarry the old fashioned way. If you had stayed in the Red Inn yourself, then you could go right there.


2bz2p wrote:

Not automatically. It does not reveal visual information required to teleport, greater or otherwise. You would need to scry. BUT - if you have been there yourself, at least seen once, then you could teleport -- if you are in range.

If you have nearby awareness, you could teleport to the nearby place. For example, you know a person you seek is in Emerald City, on the third floor or the Red Inn, on Baker street. You have never been to the Red Inn, not sure where baker Street is, but have been to Emerald City. Assuming you are in range, you teleport to the place you know and then seek out your quarry the old fashioned way. If you had stayed in the Red Inn yourself, then you could go right there.

So if I see a picture in a painting this will also help me to teleport?


Zepheri wrote:


So if I see a picture in a painting this will also help me to teleport?

RAW, why not(but you risk a False Destination)? Some GM's may dispute a painting is sufficient though, saying an abstraction is not a destination. For me, if I were GMing, if the painting is a photo-realistic illusion of a real place, no issues! But a pencil sketch or something clearly abstract, I wouldn't allow it to work or have the spell go somewhere similar to the artwork but not the right place. The spirit of the Teleport spell is that you go somewhere you have been.

My 2 cents!


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Zepheri wrote:
2bz2p wrote:

Not automatically. It does not reveal visual information required to teleport, greater or otherwise. You would need to scry. BUT - if you have been there yourself, at least seen once, then you could teleport -- if you are in range.

If you have nearby awareness, you could teleport to the nearby place. For example, you know a person you seek is in Emerald City, on the third floor or the Red Inn, on Baker street. You have never been to the Red Inn, not sure where baker Street is, but have been to Emerald City. Assuming you are in range, you teleport to the place you know and then seek out your quarry the old fashioned way. If you had stayed in the Red Inn yourself, then you could go right there.

So if I see a picture in a painting this will also help me to teleport?

Depends on how accurate it is. If it's a pretty good painting of say, the city plaza in Absalom with clear landmarks, then that should qualify for the "Seen Once". Greater Teleport only needs a reliable description so you don't even need a painting, just someone with a decent memory and somewhat descriptive enough to rule out similar locations that would cause the spell to fail.


Discern Location gives you names, not descriptions, so it is not as good as scrying a place. It can not be used for teleporting. It could be used for greater teleport, as the names can be counted as a reliable description of a unique place.

For a picture, it would be at best "Viewed once" (a place that you have seen once, possibly using magic such as scrying). If the pic is poor, it will not even be that. Consider someone's posting of city pics from their trip in another country. Unless that pic has a distinctive element known to be only in that city, you would be hard pressed to tell which city it was, especially if it was pic with a hotel from a common hotel chain.

/cevah

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