Okay, I'm just trying to make sure I understand how poisons work...let me see if I got this right.
PC faces off with 5 drow foes.
They fire their hand crossbows with drow sleep poison tipped darts.
Now if one hits, it is Fort DC 13
Two is Fort DC 15
Three is Fort DC 17
Four is Fort DC 19
Five is Fort DC 21
There is only one saving throw made regardless of the number of hits.
First question, does the PC make his saving throw after being hit...or does he wait for the one minute to pass first? (this would mean that the DC would continue to increase as the PC takes more poison darts right?) Or do they take their saving throw at their next action? Drow sleep poison has a Frequency of 1/minute for 2 minutes. Initially unconsciousness for 1 minute, secondary unconsciousness for 2d4 hours.
We'll say for now that he takes it at the 1 minute mark, 10 rounds later. Now the PC makes that saving throw at the 1 minute mark and battle continues. Now I think that means it is gone, since it is Cure: 1 save...or am I wrong about that?
He gets hit with 3 darts originally. Assuming it is cured with the first save, he gets hit with a new wave of 3 darts. Does this mean the save DC is 17 again...or DC 23 due to the previous 3 darts stacking?
I apologize, but it feels complicated and want to make sure I understand it all. Thank you for any help!
This official article on poisons in Pathfinder might help you to understand the poison rules better. (You are far form the first person to ask questions like these.)
In short though, no, the target of the drow poison gets a save versus EACH attack, the very moment he is attacked.
EDIT: Be sure to read the posts/comments below the blog as the game developers answer several more questions there.
This official article on poisons in Pathfinder might help you to understand the poison rules better. (You are far form the first person to ask questions like these.)
In short though, no, the target of the drow poison gets a save versus EACH attack, the very moment he is attacked.
EDIT: Be sure to read the posts/comments below the blog as the game developers answer several more questions there.
Okay I've been doing it that way, but does the DC keep climbing each time?
EDIT: You know what...I'll just read it. Sorry.
:)
This official article on poisons in Pathfinder might help you to understand the poison rules better. (You are far form the first person to ask questions like these.)
In short though, no, the target of the drow poison gets a save versus EACH attack, the very moment he is attacked.
EDIT: Be sure to read the posts/comments below the blog as the game developers answer several more questions there.
Okay I've been doing it that way, but does the DC keep climbing each time?
EDIT: You know what...I'll just read it. Sorry.
:)
For each active dose, yes, the DC keeps climbing by +2. However, a single save vs. drow poison is enough to negate. Also, making the initial save is always enough to avoid being affected at all.
For each active dose, yes, the DC keeps climbing by +2. However, a single save vs. drow poison is enough to negate. Also, making the initial save is always enough to avoid being affected at all.This official article on poisons in Pathfinder might help you to understand the poison rules better. (You are far form the first person to ask questions like these.)
In short though, no, the target of the drow poison gets a save versus EACH attack, the very moment he is attacked.
EDIT: Be sure to read the posts/comments below the blog as the game developers answer several more questions there.
Okay I've been doing it that way, but does the DC keep climbing each time?
EDIT: You know what...I'll just read it. Sorry.
:)
Makes me wonder why people lament the drow and their poison if the DC is only 13. Not much really, and pretty inneffective later on. The novels portray it in a different manner, and I think this is why my brain was having trouble with it. (it's really the only poison that is prolific in the fictions, I'm talking about forgotten realms of course) Guess I can always say that a more powerful dose is created for use against higher level characters. My brain just thinks that the poison is still in your veins so it should stack whether you saved or not.
Might just design a houserule. Or like I said, just say they made stronger doses.
Well, it's feared because most people are 1st or 2nd level commoners, maybe warriors. With that +3 fort save he's got a 50% shot of being knocked out. Two doses is a 75% chance.
And then you're a drow prisoner. Pretty good reason.