Effective level inreases for class abilities vs archetype substitutes


Rules Questions


Do effects that change effective class levels for the purpose of using some class abilities affect abilities from archetypes that get substituted for the original target ones?

for example: the Sash of the War Champion lets you act as a fighter 4 levels higher than you are for the purpose of having armor training and bravery. How would it work for an armormaster archetype which substitutes deflective shield for his bravery?
if the other part gets wasted should the armormaster seek out a cheaper item that only works towards the abilities he has?

Sczarni

"This bright red strip of cloth, stitched with images of a cheering crowd throwing garlands toward a chariot, fits across the wearer's shoulders and then diagonally down his chest to reach his opposite hip. The wearer treats his fighter level as 4 higher than normal for the purpose of the armor training and bravery class features.

Well, if you've given up Bravery for Deflective Shield... then that sash does nothing for you. If you don't have Bravery anymore, then the sash has nothing to add it's value to.

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