Ho do Quiggong Monk Feats work?


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Looking for some confirmation as to how these feats work with a Quiggong monk. They're still pretty cool to have, but do you need to sink some pre-recs in for them to work at all?

Step-up and strike wrote:


When using the Step Up or Following Step feats to follow an adjacent foe, you may also make a single melee attack against that foe at your highest base attack bonus. This attack counts as one of your attacks of opportunity for the round. Using this feat does not count toward the number of actions you can usually take each round.

Normal: You can usually only take one standard action and one 5-foot step each round.

1)

What can you do if you don't have Step Up or Following Steps? Can you still take the 5' via step-up, or can you move 10?

2)
Improved Vital strike would still triple your damage-dice (1 ki as a free action for an extra 4d8) w/o Vital strike makes sense.

3)
Acrobatic Steps at 4th gives you a straight 15 ft of movement since it is designed to stack with nimble-steps?

4)
Improved Ki throw: will it work if you don't have Ki-throw?

5)
Snatch Arrows, without Deflect Arrows feat?

6)
Penetrating Strike (and greater) w/o Weapon Focus? nothing gets a benefit?

Looking at Quiggong Monk, as it's noted in a lot of Monk builds, so i wanted to see how some of the Feat tricks worked?

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

Unless there is a line in the Q monk write up saying "you may ignore pre-reqs" then the general rule of pre-reqs required is in full force.

Sczarni

Feats: These ki powers duplicate the effects of specific feats. A monk does not need to qualify for a feat to select it as a ki power. For example, a qinggong monk can select Spring Attack as a ki power even if she doesn’t meet the prerequisites for selecting Spring Attack as a feat. Activating one of these ki powers is a free action on the monk’s turn; until the start of her next turn, the monk is treated as if she had that feat. Some of these ki powers that duplicate feats may also be activated as an immediate action; these powers are noted in the ki powers list.

So..... Yeah. To keep it confusing :)

I would also like to know how it works... as it seems there are many holes in it.


Feat like ImpVitalStrike is fantastic w/o the prerec
Or acrobatic steps (only 15 ft charges over anything as opposed to 20, but w/e)
Or cloud step

Then Pen strike, stepupandstrike, fall flat

And what about Ki Throw and Snatch arrow? Those are so close to functioning w/o pre-recs.


¿Bump?

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

No one has a solid rules answer, because so much is not in the rules.

If you skip the prereqs on a feat that isn't self contained and you don't have the prereq then there is no rule telling you how to make it work.

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