I enjoy playing gnome characters, and one of my favorite options for outfitting them is a Dilettante's Outfit. It just seems so thematic and cool.
These items are generally mismatched, each having been selected as “superior” from some other set of clothing, and are rife with pockets and small hidey-holes. It the [sic] wearer a +2 circumstance bonus on Sleight of Hand checks made to conceal a small object on her body.
Bolded is the part that confuses me: when does one make such a check?
In the text for Sleight of Hand, it mentions being able to "palm a coin-sized, unattended object" at a flat DC 10 (and able to do it unnoticed unless someone opposes with a Perception check). Simple enough, but do I get to add the bonus from the Dilettante's outfit? I'm 'palming' the object, but do I just keep it in my palm? Am I making it disappear up my sleeve, or into a pocket, or down my shirt?
You can hide a small object (including a light weapon or an easily concealed ranged weapon, such as a dart, sling, or hand crossbow) on your body. Your Sleight of Hand check is opposed by the Perception check of anyone observing you or of anyone frisking you. In the latter case, the searcher gains a +4 bonus on the Perception check, since it's generally easier to find such an object than to hide it. A dagger is easier to hide than most light weapons, and grants you a +2 bonus on your Sleight of Hand check to conceal it. An extraordinarily small object, such as a coin, shuriken, or ring, grants you a +4 bonus on your Sleight of Hand check to conceal it, and heavy or baggy clothing (such as a cloak) grants you a +2 bonus on the check.
Is the bolded a separate SoH check from when I palm the object? Do I need to roll twice and add the clothing bonus to the second roll, or is it assumed I'm trying to conceal the item on my check to 'palm' the object?
This seems like a simple question, but I can't seem to find any information on it. Some experienced friends of mine say that it's just one roll, and the clothing bonus applies, but since that interpretation is in my favor, I think it's best to get answers from more people to confirm.
In the text for Sleight of Hand, it mentions being able to "palm a coin-sized, unattended object" at a flat DC 10 (and able to do it unnoticed unless someone opposes with a Perception check). Simple enough, but do I get to add the bonus from the Dilettante's outfit? I'm 'palming' the object, but do I just keep it in my palm? Am I making it disappear up my sleeve, or into a pocket, or down my shirt?
Yes to any of those. Basically, "sleight of hand" is what a stage magician does.
In the text for Sleight of Hand, it mentions being able to "palm a coin-sized, unattended object" at a flat DC 10 (and able to do it unnoticed unless someone opposes with a Perception check). Simple enough, but do I get to add the bonus from the Dilettante's outfit? I'm 'palming' the object, but do I just keep it in my palm? Am I making it disappear up my sleeve, or into a pocket, or down my shirt?Yes to any of those. Basically, "sleight of hand" is what a stage magician does.
So I don't have to make a separate SoH check specifically to "hide small objects" on me when I palm a small object? That's the crux of my question.
So I don't have to make a separate SoH check specifically to "hide small objects" on me when I palm a small object? That's the crux of my question.
I think there are two different things.
If you want to palm a coin or similar, go with that DC 10 roll. I wont sum the clothes bonus in this case. Now, if someone denounce you for stealing and then some guards come to register you, its then when i would sum the clothes bonus to my soh opposed to their perception (whenever you have put there that coin).
So I don't have to make a separate SoH check specifically to "hide small objects" on me when I palm a small object? That's the crux of my question.I think there are two different things.
If you want to palm a coin or similar, go with that DC 10 roll. I wont sum the clothes bonus in this case. Now, if someone denounce you for stealing and then some guards come to register you, its then when i would sum the clothes bonus to my soh opposed to their perception (whenever you have put there that coin).
I guess I just think that it doesn't make sense to assume you're palming the object and specifically keeping it in your palm if you have on a Pocketed Scarf, for example.
When referred to by a stage magician or similar, the act of palming can, and often does, include the act of stashing the object somewhere about your person.
So, in this case, the bonus applies as you are attempting to pick the object up, so long as you intend to stash it somewhere about your person. If you intend to keep the object within your hand, then I would say no it does not apply.