Alienist ?


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I want to do a Summoner who is more geared towards the Dark Tapestry...however the summoning list has almost nil in the way of abberations....

Any ideas as to how to go about creating a balanced specalized summoning list ?


I would go by CR of the aberration a swop stuff out, or you could use the same statistics as the monster on the summoning list and describe them like they are crazy monster from the Dark Tapestry. Like use the wolf stats but say its a tentacle slap instead of a bite.


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Yeah, reflavoring might be better, as a DM would probably be more open to that.


The smitter wrote:
I would go by CR of the aberration a swop stuff out, or you could use the same statistics as the monster on the summoning list and describe them like they are crazy monster from the Dark Tapestry. Like use the wolf stats but say its a tentacle slap instead of a bite.

Also check out the shadow caller racial archetype for fetchlings. I bring this up since that archetype switches out some of the standard options for a more shadowy selection on almost every level, so it might be a decent enough guide line on how to properly create your own, more tentacl-y list.

At the very least, it shows which options you should dump when you go from a summoning list full of heavily aligned creatures to a "morality is beneath me" kind of list.

Another option would be to look into qlippoth. Those always seemed rather lovecraftian in flavor.


Wasn't there a 3.5 template to add to summoned monsters to make them more "abberitioney" somewhere ?


Pseudonatural. Make sure to add the right version, though. One was a minor buff for alienist summons, the other was basically epic Lovecraft.

Grand Lodge

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They need a Lords of Madness equivalent for Pathfinder.


blahpers wrote:
Pseudonatural. Make sure to add the right version, though. One was a minor buff for alienist summons, the other was basically epic Lovecraft.

Found it......I'll have to compare it to celestial/fiendish, and see if it looks comprable.


Looking at the template...it is almost point for point comprable to the current celestial/fiendish templates...

Only exception is the addition of this ability...
Alternate Form (Su): As a standard action, a pseudonatural creature can take the form of a grotesque, tentacled mass (or another appropriately gruesome form, as determined by the DM). Despite the alien appearance, its abilities remain unchanged. Other creatures receive a -1 morale penalty on their attack rolls against a pseudonatural creature when it is in this alternate form.

Is a -1 morale penalty enough to adjust the CR higher ?


There's a Summoner Archetype from Legendary games that turns you into a very Alienist style summoner. I forget which book, but they have a lot of good material if you're looking for some gothic horror-ish stuff.


Mortag1981 wrote:
There's a Summoner Archetype from Legendary games that turns you into a very Alienist style summoner. I forget which book, but they have a lot of good material if you're looking for some gothic horror-ish stuff.

Don't suppose anyone remembers the name ???

I'm only finding one product fro Legendary games, and it
doesn't appear to have that archytype.


Beyond the Void I think?

It had an archetype for Alchemists too. It runs for about $5 in PDF form.


nighttree wrote:

Looking at the template...it is almost point for point comprable to the current celestial/fiendish templates...

Only exception is the addition of this ability...
Alternate Form (Su): As a standard action, a pseudonatural creature can take the form of a grotesque, tentacled mass (or another appropriately gruesome form, as determined by the DM). Despite the alien appearance, its abilities remain unchanged. Other creatures receive a -1 morale penalty on their attack rolls against a pseudonatural creature when it is in this alternate form.

Is a -1 morale penalty enough to adjust the CR higher ?

Nah. It might be enough to lower the minimum level for that CR +1, but probably not.

Scarab Sages

This expanded summon monster list includes some good additions of the sort you're looking for.


When one of my fellow players summoned a gibbering mouther for the first time.... Hoo boy. O_O

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