Intelligent animal companions and racial feats


Rules Questions


Animal companion feats wrote:
Animal companions with an Intelligence of 3 or higher can select any feat they are physically capable of using.

Could a pc of a certain race teach his int 3 + AC racial feats of his race?

Example:
Could a half orc or orc teach his wolverine animal companion the amplified rage teamwork feat? The wolverine has the rage feature. But it surely is no orc or half-orc. What I do not know is whether learning this feat is something that has to do with being physically capable.


Does the badger look like an orc?

As written you can't teach anyone how to use your racial feats, even if they're purely cultural or really any race should be able to take them(Which is a majority of them...).

That said, its not an unreasonable houserule, as far as I can tell anyway.


IIRC there is a druid archetype that lets your animal companion benefit from teamwork feats your character has without the companion actually having the feat itself. Or maybe it was a witch archetype...... Fairly sure it was a druid archetype tho.


Araxiss wrote:
IIRC there is a druid archetype that lets your animal companion benefit from teamwork feats your character has without the companion actually having the feat itself. Or maybe it was a witch archetype...... Fairly sure it was a druid archetype tho.

The hunter from the upcoming ACG does this.


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Animal companions with an Intelligence of 3 or higher can select any feat they are physically capable of using.

That means that some feats require a humanoid form with hands etc. do learn/use a feat. A wolf never ever can learn EWP Bastard Sword as an example because he is not physically capable of using a BSword.


Eridan wrote:
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Animal companions with an Intelligence of 3 or higher can select any feat they are physically capable of using.
That means that some feats require a humanoid form with hands etc. do learn/use a feat. A wolf never ever can learn EWP Bastard Sword as an example because he is not physically capable of using a BSword.

That part is clear.

But is the racial restriction a physical one?
I think an orc reincarnated into a dwarf would keep his orc racial feat, wouldn't he? If so it doesn't seem a physical problem to use that orc feat.


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Some feats have prerequisites. Your character must have the indicated ability score, class feature, feat, skill, base attack bonus, or other quality designated in order to select or use that feat. A character can gain a feat at the same level at which he gains the prerequisite.

A character can't use a feat if he loses a prerequisite, but he does not lose the feat itself. If, at a later time, he regains the lost prerequisite, he immediately regains full use of the feat that prerequisite enables.

ACs have two additional prerequisites:

- Int 3 or higher
- Physically capable of using the feat

Liberty's Edge

If the feat has a racial restriction then the AC cannot take it. It is not the required race, nor is it human to be able to take Racial Heritage (which would be kinda gross anyway in almost every possible AC situation).


Eridan wrote:
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Some feats have prerequisites. Your character must have the indicated ability score, class feature, feat, skill, base attack bonus, or other quality designated in order to select or use that feat. A character can gain a feat at the same level at which he gains the prerequisite.

A character can't use a feat if he loses a prerequisite, but he does not lose the feat itself. If, at a later time, he regains the lost prerequisite, he immediately regains full use of the feat that prerequisite enables.

ACs have two additional prerequisites:

- Int 3 or higher
- Physically capable of using the feat

That AC have those two prerequisites was stated in the opening post. The question is whether the line about ACs being able to learn any feat they are physically capable to use overrules the racial prerequisite.

Normally specific trumps general. Specific states that they have to be physically capable, not that they have to be physically capable AND fulfil all the prerequisites.

Could be another RAI vs RAW case. but RAW sounds as if the intelligent AC must only be physically capable. And why should a raging wolverine not be able to rage harder, physically?


Apologies if my weirdness hijacks your thread at all but I have an auxilary question to yours that has just occurred.

If the Animal Companion has Int 11+ (Fey Animal Template or something else) And gains a level as a Wizard - Universalist (Becomes a Cohort form Leadership?) could he then learn a weapon proficincy even though he doesn't have the physical body to wield the weapon but he does have the physical ability to grasp it (i.e. Cats Claws/paws, or even jaws) and use Hand of the Apprentice to use the weapon.

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Hand of the Apprentice (Su)

You cause your melee weapon to fly from your grasp and strike a foe before instantly returning to you. As a standard action, you can make a single attack using a melee weapon at a range of 30 feet. This attack is treated as a ranged attack with a thrown weapon, except that you add your Intelligence modifier on the attack roll instead of your Dexterity modifier (damage still relies on Strength). This ability cannot be used to perform a combat maneuver. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Intelligence modifier.


In another thread a guy suggestet taking 3 inquisitor levels and using solo tactical to boost the rage of a mad dog barbarian with ampiyfied rage. Pehaps that is a way?


Cap. Darling wrote:
In another thread a guy suggestet taking 3 inquisitor levels and using solo tactical to boost the rage of a mad dog barbarian with ampiyfied rage. Pehaps that is a way?

That was me. The question in this thread was just to see if you need the inquisitor levels. RAW that is. RAI you clearly need them.


Umbranus wrote:
Cap. Darling wrote:
In another thread a guy suggestet taking 3 inquisitor levels and using solo tactical to boost the rage of a mad dog barbarian with ampiyfied rage. Pehaps that is a way?
That was me. The question in this thread was just to see if you need the inquisitor levels. RAW that is. RAI you clearly need them.

Ohh. he he ok ditent remember. And i can think of no other way to do it.


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RAW, only members of a race and humans with racial heritage can take racial feats. RAW, a human can take kobold feats to gain a tail attack, a breath weapon, and wings. Meanwhile, a dwarf born into orc slavery, having never met another dwarf and knowing nothing of dwarf culture, automatically speaks dwarven and can take any dwarf feat. Yet if trained by those orcs for gladitorial combat, he can't learn any of their tactics. "I don't know what this language is I'm speaking, and I don't know why I can't [Orc Weapon Expertise] with this double axe, but I do seem oddly good at dodging blows from giants..."

RAW for racial feats doesn't actually work. As a DM you have to ignore RAW quite a bit.

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