All the Symbol spells all reference the Symbol of Death spell which specifies "you scribe a potent rune of power upon a surface."
Teleport Object allows for teleporting "up to 50 lbs./level and 3 cu. ft./level". So a 13th level caster could teleport up to 650 lbs. and 39 cu.ft.
Assume that the symbol is scribed on a surface that meets the weight and cu.ft. restrictions for Teleport Object. Is there any reason that the caster could not create the Symbol and then teleport it to within 60' of the enemy?
Second question: Assuming the above can be done, does attuning the Symbol to allies make them immune to the affect or just make them none triggers? If an ally or the caster was in the area of effect when the Symbol is activated by someone else would all suffer the effects?
Thanks
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This spell functions like teleport, except that it teleports an object, not you. Creatures and magical forces cannot be teleported.
I would interpret that to mean, no you may not teleport a Symbol of Death.
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When scribing a symbol of death, you can specify a password or phrase that prevents a creature using it from triggering the symbol's effect. Anyone using the password remains immune to that particular rune's effects so long as the creature remains within 60 feet of the rune. If the creature leaves the radius and returns later, it must use the password again.
I've got to disagree with Claxon here. If you put the symbol on, for instance, a treasure chest, why wouldn't you be able to teleport the treasure chest? I read the term "magical forces" to mean things such as Wall of Force, or a Force Cube, not an object that has a spell cast on it.
Similarly, I think if the treasure chest was teleported near an ally of mine, i would have just screwed them over, because instead of them saying the password as they entered the 60 foot radius, now they are within that radius and haven't said the password. Stinks to be them.... Maybe there is a (couple second) delay before the rune does it's thing, just enough time to say the password? I don't have the spell description in front of me to see how the password is normally supposed to be implemented, in more detail than the line above gives (or is that all the guidance?).
Other opinions? I'm pretty confident on part 1, part 2, not so sure.
Thanks for the response. I read attuning as being different than setting a password per the spell description. But I do agree that it seems if a symbol is triggered, anyone in the area including attuned people or even the caster are potentially subject to the effect of the symbol.
1)This spell functions like teleport, except that it teleports an object, not you. Creatures and magical forces cannot be teleported.I would interpret that to mean, no you may not teleport a Symbol of Death.
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Thanks for the response.
Under your interpretation would "magical forces cannot be teleported" mean no magic item could be teleported by teleport object? That seems like a large limitation on the spell to me.
Could "magical force" mean the force by itself cannot be teleported as it is not an object just like a "creature" is not an object?
1)This spell functions like teleport, except that it teleports an object, not you. Creatures and magical forces cannot be teleported.I would interpret that to mean, no you may not teleport a Symbol of Death.
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Thanks for the response.
Under your interpretation would "magical forces cannot be teleported" mean no magic item could be teleported by teleport object? That seems like a large limitation on the spell to me.
Could "magical force" mean the force by itself cannot be teleported as it is not an object just like a "creature" is not an object?
Magical objects would be fine, I just don't think magic cast into an area (which symbol of death is closer to IMO) would be capable of being teleported. It's just my opinion. I don't think there is a clear answer. My answer is mostly based on disallowing power creep, and I personally favor more restrictive answers, especially on magic.
Allowing things like symbols of death to be teleported right next to the BBEG because you're scrying on him and have found his lair makes the game suck really hard for people who aren't casters. Of course, for my home games I've also restricted teleportation and scrying so that they basically only funciton outside. This is just an extension of scry and die, only worse because there is no risk to anyone in the party if you just teleport the symbol in.