Can I make a stealth check after a full ranged attack?


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I am a level 13 Gnome Alchemist (saboteur, grenadier) while my Greater Chameleon Mutagen (hide in plain sight) is active and after I make a full attack with bombs can I roll a stealth check as part of a 5 foot step or while I am stuck up on a wall somewhere?


I would rule no, a stealth check is generally part of a move action, not a non action, and unless you have a few feats I think you are auto located after an attack.

Checking on the actual rules for this now.


This is a bit of a point of contention. Do a search for Hell Cat Stealth and movement and you should probably find a thread which discusses the sides to the argument.

I can tell you that, as a GM I certainly wouldn't allow it and the rules aren't very clear on whether a 5ft step is sufficient.

Edit: Just saw this, which I believe is achange or an errata that I've missed before.

Quote:
Action: Usually none. Normally, you make a Stealth check as part of movement, so it doesn't take a separate action. However, using Stealth immediately after a ranged attack (see Sniping, above) is a move action.
Quote:
Sniping: If you've already successfully used Stealth at least 10 feet from your target, you can make one ranged attack and then immediately use Stealth again. You take a –20 penalty on your Stealth check to maintain your obscured location.

So no, despite being able to Hide in Plain Sight, making a stealth check after a ranged attack requires a move action. Which means you can't make a full attack and stealth.


Best to do what was suggested and find/read the other threads..I can tell you it was never truly answered...both sides have good points but I do not wish to get into again

If hellcat stealth doesn't find it look up "HiPS" or "hide in plain sight"

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