Greetings everyone,
Here is a little gem that one of my players have stumbled upon. I am trying to get a better clarity on this particular rule.
As a game master in the game where a character have used this little trick, (I do think it is an exploit but cannot find anything in any of the manuals to prove it so) I can make a rulling that it does not work that way, but I would like something more solid to stand on than just my suspicions...
I am an elf, I choose an adopted trait...
By doing so I have an access to racial traits of humans, who have raised me (in place of my birth parents). It is noted that I can choose one racial trait of humans to suplement my character build.
On page 27 of Pathfinder Core Rules it states that Humans have +2 bonus to a stat of their choice as (and I quote) Human Racial Trait.
Have I just managed to get +2 to one score as an elf and another +2 to one score because I was adopted by humans?
Comments?
Kind Regards
Ebon Hawk
I would say no. Just because he was raised by humans wouldn't make him racially stronger. Use the traits from the advance players guide or something.
I do agree, its like saying that human raised by dwarves can see in a dark, well he is still human and adopted traits cannot cross physical makeup boundries. But interestingly enough there is no clear statement to that effect anywhere in the rules (that I can find).
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
This is where Pathfinder (and D&D in gerneral) needs a freaking Thesaurus.
"Adopted: You were adopted and raised by someone not of your actual race, and raised in a society not your own. As a result, you picked up a race trait from your adoptive parents and society, and may immediately select a race trait from your adoptive parents' race."
A Race Trait NOT a RACIAL Trait.
Race Traits are given in the back of the APG and in the Player Companions, I don't think there are any from the Advanced Race Guide.
And DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON LEVEL, CASTER LEVEL, SPELL LEVEL AND EFFECTIVE CHARACTER LEVEL.
This is a problem of a trait (the things you usually get 2 of that you pick) that happen to restricted to certain races versus the....qualities of the race itself.
Adopted just lets you pick a trait, not the actual "qualities" of the race you were raised by.
|
Adopted: You were adopted and raised by someone not of your race, and raised in a society not your own. As a result, you picked up a race trait from your adoptive parents and society, and may immediately select a race trait from your adoptive parents' race.
As others have noted it says RACE not RACIAL trait in the text. Traits fall in two categories Basic Traits, which is then further divided four categories, and Race (Not Racial) Traits. It is one of these Race traits for a race not your own that you are able to take. You can't use this to take the adopted trait as a Human raised by a Half-Orc family to get Darkvision or as an Elf raised by humans to get an extra +2 to a stat.
As others have noted it says RACE not RACIAL trait in the text. Traits fall in two categories Basic Traits, which is then further divided four categories, and Race (Not Racial) Traits. It is one of these Race traits for a race not your own that you are able to take. You can't use this to take the adopted trait as a Human raised by a Half-Orc family to get Darkvision or as an Elf raised by humans to get an extra +2 to a stat.
Great, now I just got the idea of other racial trait combos that would make it sound ridiculous.
How about an elf raised by a halfling. He would get bonuses to profession (cookie making, shoe making, and santa's helper) due to small size.