| Damian Vryce Kil'Cannon |
Player of mine wants weapons similar to the Sun Blades property of being a bastard sword but wielded as a short sword. He doesn't want the rest of the properties of the sun blades. Is there an existing property out there or how would one recommend breaking the sun Blade down for cost and create magic item requirements?
| Damian Vryce Kil'Cannon |
As the Gm I would like to keep all of the properties on the blade except the Sun power and without the good alignment properties. part. He is a Dhampir so the Sunlight power really doesn't make sense for him. Thinking of adding something else instead or nothing else.
So what would requirements be and cost for a sun Blade without the Sunlight power.
| Mauril |
Parsing the abilities is difficult.
The +2 bastard sword part is easy. That's 8,335 gold.
If you count the +2 vs evil and double damage against negative energy as roughly equivalent to a greater bane enhancement (if bane is +1, this is +2), it's another 24,000 gold.
Then you have the alignment restriction and negative level, which are suggested as a 30% reduction in price. Meaning the whole thing should cost 71,428 gold (and some change), assuming the price of a masterwork longsword isn't changed by that calculation.
This leaves 39,428 gold for the other properties. The price of the daylight-like ability, priced as a command-word spell once-per day, is 10,800 gold, but the ability it more complex than just a fire-and-forget spell, since it requires maintaining the whirling blade to continue expanding the radius of the light. But, let's assume that trades fairly with the maybe-underpriced pseudo-bane ability.
This leaves us with the weapon size spoofing ability to be priced at 28,628 gold, which seems expensive to me, but it's what my math is telling me.
tl;dr
If you just want to strip out the daylight ability, deduct 7,560 gold from the price (10,800 reduced 30% for the alignment restriction). This gives you a price of 42,775.
| insaneogeddon |
As the Gm I would like to keep all of the properties on the blade except the Sun power and without the good alignment properties. part. He is a Dhampir so the Sunlight power really doesn't make sense for him. Thinking of adding something else instead or nothing else.
So what would requirements be and cost for a sun Blade without the Sunlight power.
There used to be a moon blade/night blade/eclipse blade or something that did darkness instead, was evil and did extra damage against positive energy creatures.
That is what I would do - keep them unique items only allowed due to the patronage of opposing (maybe forgotten) gods of light/dark. To make such a power a mere cost that can be added to anything.. is a can o worms that will cause headaches.
Diego Rossi
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This leaves us with the weapon size spoofing ability to be priced at 28,628 gold, which seems expensive to me, but it's what my math is telling me.
That ability do plenty of things:
- it allow you to use a bastard sword 1 handed without the exotic weapon proficiency- it allow you to apply to a bastard sword "Weapon Focus and Weapon Specialization in short sword and bastard sword". Maybe even weapon finesse.
So it amount to 1 full feat for free and something like 2 half feats.
Or put it another way, it is a 2 increase in the dice of damage done by a short sword. 1d10 instead of 1d6.