Unholy Blight, Native Outsiders of XG alignment interaction.


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Sczarni

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Unholy Blight:
UNHOLY BLIGHT
School evocation [evil]; Level cleric 4
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S
Range medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Area 20-ft.-radius spread
Duration instantaneous (1d4 rounds); see text
Saving Throw Will partial; Spell Resistance yes
You call up unholy power to smite your enemies. The power takes the form of a cold, cloying miasma of greasy darkness. Only good and neutral (not evil) creatures are harmed by the spell.

The spell deals 1d8 points of damage per two caster levels (maximum 5d8) to a good creature (or 1d6 per caster level, maximum 10d6, to a good outsider) and causes it to be sickened for 1d4 rounds. A successful Will save reduces damage to half and negates the sickened effect. The effects cannot be negated by remove disease or heal, but remove curse is effective.

The spell deals only half damage to creatures who are neither evil nor good, and they are not sickened. Such a creature can reduce the damage by half again (down to one-quarter) with a successful Will save.

James Jacobs:
I know he's not a rules guy but...
James Jacobs wrote:
Aleron wrote:


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The spell deals 1d8 points of damage per two caster levels (maximum 5d8) to a good creature (or 1d6 per caster level, maximum 10d6, to a good outsider) and causes it to be sickened for 1d4 rounds.
I was wondering if the Aasimar takes the d8s or the d6s of damage based on their Native Outsider type (assuming of good alignment)? Sorry for not being clear!
The aasimar is a native outsider and isn't "Good" subtype, regardless of alignment. And don't worry... the spell itself is what's not clear. We should have capitalized "good" in the "Good outsider" bit.

Read it yourself.

Ran into this last night as I was playing my NG Ifirit character in a PFS scenario vs two Erinyes who really preferred casting the spell over using their bows. The GM ruled that I was an outsider and I was good so I took 10d6 instead of 5d8 per casting of the spell. There were a couple rounds where I took 20d6 damage and a few where I took 10d6, overall it was just entirely too much damage to live through and after expending most of our spell slots in healing we fell down and the cleric managed to ran away.

I am seeking is it one way or another and would appreciate an official response if at all possible. Thank you.

Grand Lodge

My understanding of this issue is that the reference of Good Outsider in the spell is refering to an Outsider with the Good subtype, not the Good alignment. The Ifirit should have taken at most 5d8 per spell.

UNHOLY BLIGHT
School evocation [evil]; Level cleric 4
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S
Range medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Area 20-ft.-radius spread
Duration instantaneous (1d4 rounds); see text
Saving Throw Will partial; Spell Resistance yes
You call up unholy power to smite your enemies. The power takes the form of a cold, cloying miasma of greasy darkness. Only good and neutral (not evil) creatures are harmed by the spell.

The spell deals 1d8 points of damage per two caster levels (maximum 5d8) to a good creature (or 1d6 per caster level, maximum 10d6, to a good outsider) and causes it to be sickened for 1d4 rounds. A successful Will save reduces damage to half and negates the sickened effect. The effects cannot be negated by remove disease or heal, but remove curse is effective.

The spell deals only half damage to creatures who are neither evil nor good, and they are not sickened. Such a creature can reduce the damage by half again (down to one-quarter) with a successful Will save.

Scarab Sages

Unfortunately, I'd be partially inclined to argue that the spirit of such spells means they should work the same way for Outsiders as they do for non-Outsiders - i.e. an Angel whose alignment has fallen to Evil should not take damage from that spell, even though he still has the [Good] subtype. As for planetouched (Aasimar, Tieflings, Oreads, Sylphs, Ifrits, Undines, etc.), they're Outsiders by heritage, but mostly mortal, so I'd be inclined to say that they should be treated as non-Outsiders in this regard.

I love the fact that unholy blight is a "cold, cloying miasma of greasy darkness." It's like they're blasting you with a jet of petroleum - makes me think there ought to be a new Empyreal Lord....

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