Can a caster use a Standard Action to cast an Immediate or Swift spell after use up Immediate action?

[S'Daria]

Before my turn I use up my immediate action. On my turn I want to cast a spell that normally is a Swift or Immediate action.

1) Can I do so?
2) What if the immediation action consumed was a spell?

[Chemlak]

An immediate action uses up the next turn's swift action. There is no scope in the rules for "downgrading" standard or move actions into swift actions.

So the answer is "no".

[Nawtyit]

CRB wrote:

Using an immediate action on your turn is the same as using a swift action and counts as your swift action for that turn. You cannot use another immediate action or a swift action until after your next turn if you have used an immediate action when it is not currently your turn (effectively, using an immediate action before your turn is equivalent to using your swift action for the coming turn).

1)No.

2)Makes no difference.

[Majuba]

3) Home game: ask your GM. I don't see a problem with casting two feather falls on your turn.

Slight 'twist': if it is an immediate action spell you want, you can cast it once on your turn, end your turn, and cast it again right away. So swift/immediate (after turn), but not immediate/swift.

[Victor Zajic]

It's a pretty reasonable house rule to let you downgrade actions like in 4th edition.

Rules as Written you can't do it, though

[Majuba]

Victor Zajic wrote:

It's a pretty reasonable house rule to let you downgrade actions like in 4th edition.

It's a very slippery slope - there are quite a few swift actions balanced on the fact that you can only do them once per turn. You should not be able to 'downgrade' move-actions to swift-actions, and standard to swift is questionable.

[Bizbag]

S'Daria wrote:

Before my turn I use up my immediate action. On my turn I want to cast a spell that normally is a Swift or Immediate action.

1) Can I do so?
2) What if the immediation action consumed was a spell?

Ordinarily, no. In a few specific cases, like Feather Fall, I think it's fine, as long as it's treated like a standard spell (AOOs, etc.).

If you prepared a Quickened spell and want to use it as a Standard action instead, then no. That's the risk of the prepared spellcaster; that your plans are not perfect. This is the advantage of Spontaneous casters.

[Claxon]

I agree with Majuba.

Allowing a character to cast feather fall as a standard isn't a problem, but allowing general "down grading" of a move or standard actions into a swift could be very problematic depending upon the character class and build.