What do Andorans think about dhampirs?


Andoran

The Exchange

I was wondering what, if any, position the Andorian faction had about dhampirs.

Thoughts?

Liberty's Edge

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Sidney Kuhn wrote:

I was wondering what, if any, position the Andorian faction had about dhampirs.

Thoughts?

What position does a herd of cats have on which way to go?


factions have no set views of individual races, each member will make up there own mind regarding the walking half dead standing next to him or her... hey is that riddick next to you?

Sovereign Court

Although Cheliax does look down upon all non humans including half-elves and tieflings.

Liberty's Edge

They need to be freed from the chains of undeath, right? Isn't that the Andoran stance on undead?

Liberty's Edge

Technically, dhampirs are alive but do have problems with positive energy. In the end, I think that we should judge other by their deeds, the quality of their ideas, and the contents of their character/

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A true Andoren cares not for the vagaries of birth and breeding, and true freedom must include freedom from ignorant superstitions and small-minded prejudices. A dhampir looking to prove the quality of his character could find no better place than among the defenders of liberty, and all true lovers of freedom would be no less grateful for such an unexpected ally.


well just as long he does not nom nom your sisters neck right?

The Exchange

Talon89 wrote:
well just as long he does not nom nom your sisters neck right?

I didn't think they were vampires and sucked blood from others.

The Exchange

My concern was the "undead" issue.

Liberty's Edge

Being a freedom fighter and a champion of justice does not make us helplessly naive. You should ascertain whether this half-undead is acting of his own free will or if he is merely the pawn of his undead parent. If the latter, free him by any means possible. Death is a definite possibility here.

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Sidney Kuhn wrote:

I was wondering what, if any, position the Andorian faction had about dhampirs.

Thoughts?

Most Andorans, not having a copy of any of the Bestiaries to read, given Dhampirs aren't really that common, have no opinion whatsoever. Those active in faction politics, have much bigger fish to fry these days if they're aware of the revelations in Hellknight's Feast.

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With that said, I consider myself a good andoran, certainly better than the prat running the place. I've met a few half undead, and while most of them gave me the heebiegeebies (thats a technical term) till my feathers went all the way out in the end they have souls. Like anyone else, they're individuals. Even if they're struggling a bit more than most and a bit more literally from an internal evil influence you cannot assume that any particular Dhampire has succumbed to it. You have to think about dhampires the same way you think about anyone else

One at a time.

Liberty's Edge

Also the common Andoran is going to hear 'Vampire' when they hear 'Dhampir;. Pathfinders of the Andoran faction are going to hear Dhampir, possibly fail a knowledge X check and then have to ask someone anyway.


Dhampir can drink the blood like a "normal" vampires, it is just not required. Though in there write up, they continually thirst for it, it is the thing which keeps the good from the bad.

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"What do Andorens think of elves? Or of humans?"

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I've fought alongside a Dhampir on two separate occasions and he was nothing less than a worthy comrade in arms. One who I would work with again. But I still will take them on a case by case basis. Same goes for humans and elves.

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In the end, we must judge others by their deeds, their ideas, and the contents of their characters. No other standard is appropriate. If someone like the Empyreal Lord Ragathiel can overcome his origins to be an example of courage and virtue, then perhaps any of us rise above our own origins to be shining examples to a world that truly needs heroes and role models.

Liberty's Edge

"What's a dhampir?? is it a damp vampire? somekind of vampire off-shoot that can survive on swamp creatures? what is it and how do they fit in our economic plans of capitalism?"

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Chaine "The Butcher" Alazario wrote:
"What's a dhampir?? is it a damp vampire? somekind of vampire off-shoot that can survive on swamp creatures? what is it and how do they fit in our economic plans of capitalism?"

Please, sir, do not equate the cause of freedom with the prolifigation of capitalist ventures and monied corporations. I believe a great patriot once wrote:

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

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"Balderdash! this new concept of banks invented by Andoran is absolute genius and can only lead to more liberation and more good! Freedom means being able to live comfortably and prosper in relative peace without being indentured to a master or lord or some old money dandy with no concept of hard work!!"


Talon89 wrote:
Dhampir can drink the blood like a "normal" vampires, it is just not required. Though in there write up, they continually thirst for it, it is the thing which keeps the good from the bad.

The bestiary entry supports such a bloodlust, but the PC Race entry doesn't clearly state that there is any such universal bloodlust like that, even if many Dhampir do fall into that type of thing (or just evilness, period). I wouldn't apply a rule to a PC that isn't stated for their PC race, and the same goes for any NPC built using the PC race stats/alt race stats/etc.

It's pretty easy to build Dhampir PCs lacking many of the more Undead traits: all the variants and the vanilla Dhampir with "Dayborn" aren't Dazzled by Daylight, and if you want there is a Feat: Life Dominant Soul in the Blood of Night sourcebook that lets you be healed at 50% efficiency by BOTH Pos and Negative.

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Talon89 wrote:
well just as long he does not nom nom your sisters neck right?

Eh, my sister is kinda kinky. As long as it's consensual, it's not my place to object.

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Chaine "The Butcher" Alazario wrote:
"Balderdash! this new concept of banks invented by Andoran is absolute genius and can only lead to more liberation and more good! Freedom means being able to live comfortably and prosper in relative peace without being indentured to a master or lord or some old money dandy with no concept of hard work!!"

"My friend, I do not doubt your patriotic ardor, but I think that your ideas may have us exchange the shackles of the feudal system for the gilded ones placed upon us by wealthy opportunists! We must hang together against all oppressors, be they foreign or within our beloved nation .. lest we end up hanging separately!"

Liberty's Edge

The Aasimar chuckles. "As long as they're not slavers, I don't mind them." She pauses and grins. "And if she's pretty enough, I'd likely ask her out."

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talbanus wrote:
Chaine "The Butcher" Alazario wrote:
"Balderdash! this new concept of banks invented by Andoran is absolute genius and can only lead to more liberation and more good! Freedom means being able to live comfortably and prosper in relative peace without being indentured to a master or lord or some old money dandy with no concept of hard work!!"
"My friend, I do not doubt your patriotic ardor, but I think that your ideas may have us exchange the shackles of the feudal system for the gilded ones placed upon us by wealthy opportunists! We must hang together against all oppressors, be they foreign or within our beloved nation .. lest we end up hanging separately!"

"As long as the authorities are not corrupt and chosen on a merit system (and not chosen depending on who their father is and how much he donates to the City Watch each year), then I say a system that rewards hard work, skills and quality with wealth is fine by me. As with everything, a balanced approach works best when governing a nation. Remember that wealth can be taxed, and this is how a nation should deal with rich men who tend to not donate and give back on their own (those who do could apply such philanthropic expenses towards a tax credit). And those who attempt to create shackles, gilded or otherwise, should be punished accordingly. This is Andoran: as long as you do not destroy the freedom of others, you are free to be as rich as you want! Do not instill such guilt in those that have the true potential to prosper financially. Their wealth will yield many happy lives for their retainers and create a lot of employment!"

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