furious focus only on full attack?


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It says on the "first attack of the round" on furious focus. I'm making an assumption that this means only when you make a full attack (even if your full attack currently consists of only one from a low base attack bonus). Is this incorrect? Is there an official statement on this?


Considering the base requirement of the feat is +1 bab (and thus only one attack anyway) I would assume that you do not need more than one attack to set it up. But I cant be sure.


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"first attack you make each turn" means "first attack you make each turn", be it a standard action or a full attack action.

Furious Focus (Combat) wrote:
Benefit: When you are wielding a two-handed weapon or a one-handed weapon with two hands, and using the Power Attack feat, you do not suffer Power Attack’s penalty on melee attack rolls on the first attack you make each turn. You still suffer the penalty on any additional attacks, including attacks of opportunity.

As long as you are wielding a 2 handed weapon or a 1 handed weapon in two hands, your first attack does not suffer from penalties from using Power Attack. Though strictly speaking that means you could make a bite attack (for example) as your first attack without power attack penalties, which seems a bit off to me, but still correct by RAW.

As GM, my statement (at my table) is official.

Edit: "First attack you make each turn" NOT "First attack each round"


Nothing there says it needs to be on a full attack. If you only make one attack, it's still your first attack of the round.


MyTThor wrote:
Nothing there says it needs to be on a full attack. If you only make one attack, it's still your first attack of the round.

Even if that attack is actually an attack of opportunity sometime after your turn.


No, the feat specifically says "the first attack you make each turn".

The AoO in question would have to trigger sometime during your turn to make use of this feat.


Yeah, good point about the AoOs, etc. I just was curious. I try to be as by-the-book as possible. Occasionally (.00001%) I admit I over-analyze and read too much into wording. But I try to keep it straight.

Liberty's Edge

The quoted portion states in the last line that it doesn't apply to AoO.

Silver Crusade

HangarFlying wrote:
The quoted portion states in the last line that it doesn't apply to AoO.

It states that it doesn't apply to AoOs that occur after the first attack of the round. Remember, the way Power Attack works is you turn it on before an attack and it is on until the beginning of your next turn. Let's assume a level 11 fighter using a heavy flail and having all of the trip affecting feats like Greater Trip. This fighter has 3 attacks. For argument's sake, let's say these are at +20/+15/+10. With an 11 BAB he is at -3/+9. Say he decides to use his first iterative attack to make a trip attempt. Since he's tripping, there's no reason to power attack and Furious Focus wouldn't come into play. Assuming he succeeds at the trip, he gets an AoO against the enemy. He can then turn Power Attack on for this AoO and his other 2 iteratives, and Furious Focus would apply to this AoO, which would be made at full BAB.


BigDaddyJug is correct. You can apply power attack starting with the 2nd attack of a full attack. You don't have to start with the first attack which has me thinking that maybe waiting until the 2nd attack may get you more DPR since the first attack is more likely to hit anyway.

Silver Crusade

After typing out that response, I want to build a fighter with the Greater Trip feat that uses his first iterative to trip, takes his AoO, then uses Power Attack on his second AoO when he has the +4 bonus to hit because the target is prone. There's just so many creatures that are immune to trip it doesn't seem like it would be worth it.


thenobledrake wrote:
Even if that attack is actually an attack of opportunity sometime after your turn.

Yes, but only if you already made an attack during that turn.

(like say you get one from deliberately provoking on your own turn when you have crane riposte).

But in most cases, you'll get an AoO on someone elss's turn, which would be your first attack in that turn, thus you wouldn't suffer a penalty.

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