Acrobatics, flat-footed, and AOOs


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Hi,

This situation came up in a sesion yesterday:

We were on a corridor 10 feet wide, two enemies appear in front of us, blocking the corridor. I won initiative, so I go first and want to use my movement to get the back of the enemies, so I could flank when the slower PJs get in front of the enemies. Here´s the deal:

I have to move through enemy space, and you can´t do that unless you overrun or use acrobatics. Acrobatics is used to move through enemy space whithout provoking an Attack of Opportunity. But the enemies are flat-footed (they haven´t acted yet), so they cannot make AOOs. Which means even if I fail the Acrobatics check, they can´t do anything, so... Does that mean I don´t need to make the acrobatics check? Or I have still to make, but nothing happens if I fail? Or I can´t make it, so it´s impossible for me to move through enemy space?

What do you think it´s the correct option? I´ll appreciate any opinion.


You still have to make the Acrobatics check in order to get through an enemy's space (of course, the check would be a lot easier than normal, since the enemy would lose DEX to CMD). Even if you fail the Acrobatics check, you wouldn't suffer an AoO (unless the enemy has Combat Reflexes), but you would lose the move action.

You would not, however, need to make an Acrobatics check to get past an enemy's threatened area, since the enemy doesn't threaten any squares (unless the enemy has Combat Reflexes). Given the possibility for the enemy having the feat, it might still be worth it to make the check as well :)


Sorry, but I can´t find where it says in the rulebook that you lose your move action when you fail the Acrobatics check. While it seems the logical thing to do, I want something to show the others in my group from the rulebook so we could close this discussion (It's being a heated debate right now)


PRD wrote wrote:
"If you attempt to move through an enemy’s space and fail the check, you lose the move action and provoke an attack of opportunity."


Note that the sentence in question wasn't added until the 5th printing of the Core Rulebook, which is presumably the reason it isn't in your book.


Ok, that´s what I was looking for. Thank you all.

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