Noble scion feat combined with First Into Battle (Su)


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Hi, i play a paladin and stumbled upon a rare? combination.

A paladin using the noble scion feat:
Scion of War: You use your Charisma modifier to adjust Initiative checks instead of your Dexterity modifier.

And the paladin archetype Sword of Valor ability First into battle:
First Into Battle (Su)
When making an Initiative check, a sword of valor gains a bonus to the check equal to his Charisma bonus.

Question is , does this stack? Cheesy?


Yes. Quite specifically because you "gain a bonus equal to your charisma bonus."

So you arent actually adding your charisma mod to your initiative like in Scion of War.

Atleast thats my take on it.

Edit: As for cheesy, going first isn't a huge deal anyways for a paladin. I can build a Wizard who gets a +13 to his initiative at level 1. A wizard going first is far more game changing than a paladin.

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