Double Hackbut Fluke?

[DeanHavok]

I don't really know where on the messageboard this would be appropriate to post, so here it is.

Am I the only one that noticed that there's an inaccuracy with the double hackbut firearm?

Double Hackbut attributes:

Firearm Cost Dmg (S) Dmg (M) Critical Range Misfire Capacity Weight1 Type2 Special
Double hackbut 4,000 gp 2d10 2d12 ×4 50 ft. 1–2 (5 ft.) 2 18 lbs. B and P —

Here's a link to a pic of a real-life double hackbut:

link:

http://www.engerisser.de/Bilder/Waffen/Doppelhaken.jpg

Note the single barrel, not two. The "double" in "double hackbut" comes from the length of the barrel, not that it has a pair of barrels. The capacity for the PF hackbut is 2, but it should absolutely be a single barrel weapon. I don't mean to blow the cover of any sneaky gunslingers who noticed this and "forgot" to mention this. I guess I'm honestly just asking. Was this a mistake, or an intentional beefing of an already amazingly powerful weapon?

[Ipslore the Red]

Real life is not necessarily relevant to Pathfinder.

[DeanHavok]

True, but in my mind this has the foul taste of assumption making based off of the name of the weapon. It's not a hard conclusion to come to, of course, but on a weapon that already jumps a 1d12 from the second place damage dealing firearm, a jump of 3d12 seems crazy. Not that I'm complaining. I love the thought of toting a wheeled carriage laden with a seven foot musket around the battlefield. Who wouldn't? It's hilarious and crazy powerful.

[Mojorat]

Double Hackbut: This double-length rifle uses a pair of trunnions to mount its barrel into a swiveling mechanism fastened to a lightweight, two-wheeled carriage. It takes a full-round action to set up the carriage. The carriage has a hind leg, allowing the wielder to wheel the device about and immediately prop it for stability during combat. Unlike other two-handed firearms, you must fire the double hackbut while it is mounted, or else firing it imparts a –4 penalty on attack rolls and the recoil knocks the wielder prone. A Large or larger creature can fire a double hackbut one size smaller than it is without its mounting as a normal two-handed weapon and without the danger of being knocked prone, but takes the normal penalty for firing an inappropriately sized weapon.

Im not sure what the discrepancy is it isa double length rifle not a doublebarrel gun. Nothing in its description or rules implies it has two barrels.

[DeanHavok]

You're correct that it doesn't imply it in the description. However, had you glanced at the Early Firearms table, the relevant part of which I posted above, you would have seen that it shows the capacity as 2. This implies two barrels. Other guns on that chart with a capacity of two: Pistol, double-barreled; Buckler gun (double barreled in the description); and musket, double barreled.

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCombat/combat/firearms.html

[Kazumetsa Raijin]

DeanHavoc wrote:

You're correct that it doesn't imply it in the description. However, had you glanced at the Early Firearms table, the relevant part of which I posted above, you would have seen that it shows the capacity as 2. This implies two barrels. Other guns on that chart with a capacity of two: Pistol, double-barreled; Buckler gun (double barreled in the description); and musket, double barreled.

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCombat/combat/firearms.html

Truly good games are a very fine blend of Realism and Fantasy. I think this just dabbles on that line in between the two and maybe all of it didn't transfer over :)

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