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I need some advice on what spells I should pick up via Unsanctioned Knowledge.
I am playing an Oath of Vengeance Paladin of Ragathiel 4 / Dual-Cursed Oracle of Lore 1 in PFS. My character has a heavy Fey/Dhampire backstory to him, with a little bit of anger management issues (hence Vengeance)
I'm planing to take Unsanctioned Knowledge at lv 7, but I'm unsure about spells I should pick up.
Also with my 1 level of Oracle, I will only be able to use lvl 3 spells when my character reach lv 11. Which limits the usefulness of lvl 3 and above spells.
My current plan for spells:
Lv 1 - Vanish
Lv 2 - Blood Rage
Lv 3 - Good Hope/Haste/Heroism?
lv 4 - ???
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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@David,
Is the Invisibility spell useful for a Paladin? Cos I did thought of picking up Invisibility over Vanish, but with only so little spells per day, I wonder if spending a lv 2 spell slot for Invisibility is worth it.
Especially with other great Lv 2 spells like Blood Rage or Heroism.
Btw, reading Unsanctioned Knowledge wording, can a person choose a lower lv spell in place of a higher lvl one?
Pick one 1st-level spell, one 2nd-level spell, one 3rd-level spell, and one 4th-level spell from the bard, cleric, inquisitor, or oracle spell lists. Add these spells to your paladin spell list as paladin spells of the appropriate level. Once chosen, these spells cannot be changed.
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unsanctioned knowledge is (IMO) all about making your pally more the flavor you want him (which is, presumably, not vanilla- since you're taking a feat like this)... for that reason, there's no set batch of spells that someone can just say 'here, these are the best ones'.
you say you've got some kind of fey/dhampir 'backstory'- is that related to your lineage/origin or are those things you've been fighting/dealing with? and your 'anger management problem' is that something you're legitimately trying to overcome or a bit of flavor you want to play up?
1- hideous laughter or vanish are good fey options; wrath would be good with the anger issues
2- calm emotions would be good if you really are trying to overcome the anger, and rage would be good if you're embracing it; invisibility or minor image are good fey options; blistering invective or castigate could also go with anger
3- charm monster and jester's jaunt are good fey choices, retribution for anger
4- kiss of the first world, dimension door, freedom of movement, and improved invisibility
those are just a few examples. try to come up with a single theme for all 4 spells and then use these as a spring board to find the 4 spells that will really reinforce that theme/flavor.
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@nate,
Thanks for the suggestions. I think I want a mix of Fey and Anger. Hence Vanish for a lv 1 spell and Blood Rage.
Mirror image seems great for a fey though! Need to really consider which is more in flavor for my Paladin. My third choice is heroism...
Do you have any suggest for a Lv 3 non-save or suck spell? I'm trying to stick to buff spells...
PS: Does anyone know if the +2 morale bonus to Strength by Blood Rage decreases if the damage is healed?
For example, if a character with Blood Rage takes 25 points of damage for a +10 to Str and -5 to Ac, and gets healed for 20 hp, does it means the bonus drops to +2 Str and -1 to Ac?
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as written, it looks like healing should not reduce the benefits from blood rage (subject to your GM's interpretation, obviously).
if you're looking for a 3rd level buff- its less thematic, but haste (bard 3) is never a bad option (or you could take heroism as an inquisitor, since you didn't take it as bard 2). channel vigor (cleric 3) is also good but maybe even less thematic than haste.
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Channel Vigor! Now that is 1 spell I totally overlooked....
DAMN IT! Its for Irori worshippers only!
And it effects fit my character ideal so well... T_T
Sigh... Looks like I will go with Haste instead. Like you said, its never a bad option.
Thanks for all the suggestion, I think I got my first 3 spells lined up. They all fit one of the background elements for my character.
I think I will go with:
1) Vanish - Fey
2) Blood Rage - Anger
3) Haste - Dhampire
4) Dimension door, Freedom of movement, Or Greater invisibility.
I think any of these 3 would fit my character's Feyish background. Currently leaning towards, Dimension door for its general usefulness. FoM can be replicated with some items and Greater invisibility may be defeated by enemies that can see invisibility or purge it by the time my Paladin have access to it.
Thanks again for all the suggestions.
If anyone know some spell I over looked please let me know.
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Just noticed the spell, Bladed Dash
Base on its description, it too fit the Dhampire/Fey flavour for my character... too many choices here...
In terms of optimization in general, which of the two spells Bladed Dash or Blood Rage, would be a better choice?
Or is Mirror Image or Invisibility better then the above two spells?
Both Bladed Dash and Blood Rage make sense, flavour wise to take. Just asking for opinions, in relation to PFS games.