Amazing Initiative + Readied Action = 3 spells a round?


Rules Questions


Apologies if this has come up before, but this possibility has me wondering.

Amazing Initiative wrote:
At 2nd tier, you gain a bonus on initiative checks equal to your mythic tier. In addition, as a free action on your turn, you can expend one use of mythic power to take an additional standard action during that turn. This additional standard action can't be used to cast a spell. You can't gain an extra action in this way more than once per round.

So, it's spelled out that this can't be used to cast another spell. Fair enough. But, what if we ready an action of some sort with it? Can that be done?

Ready wrote:
The ready action lets you prepare to take an action later, after your turn is over but before your next one has begun. Readying is a standard action. It does not provoke an attack of opportunity (though the action that you ready might do so).

Okay, so Amazing Initiative DOES let us ready an action of some kind. We can shoot the enemy cast in the face when he tries to death ray us. But can said shooting be done with a spell? Can this be used for, say, a readied Magic Missile?

Readying an Action wrote:

You can ready a standard action, a move action, a swift action, or a free action. To do so, specify the action you will take and the conditions under which you will take it. Then, anytime before your next action, you may take the readied action in response to that condition. The action occurs just before the action that triggers it. If the triggered action is part of another character's activities, you interrupt the other character. Assuming he is still capable of doing so, he continues his actions once you complete your readied action. Your initiative result changes. For the rest of the encounter, your initiative result is the count on which you took the readied action, and you act immediately ahead of the character whose action triggered your readied action.

You can take a 5-foot step as part of your readied action, but only if you don't otherwise move any distance during the round.

Since most spells are standard actions to cast, it appears that we can, in fact, do this. So, if an Archmage or Hierophant used their swift action to cast a mythically-empowered spell, then cast a regular spell using their normal standard action, then readied an action with Amazing Initiative to use a spell for a fairly broad offensive purpose, it seems like it would be possible to get off 3 spells in a single round. My question is, should this be legal? You're not really using your standard action to cast a spell, since there's the possibility the triggering event might not occur, for whatever reason.

So, what does the Rules Board say? Allowable use of mythic power via a close reading of the rules, or cheap exploit that needs an FAQ to disallow such a combination?


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Just because it's a readied action doesn't allow you to break the other rules with it. When you spend a standard action to ready an action, all you're doing is delaying that standard action (instead of your whole turn as you do when you choose to Delay) until such time as the trigger is met.

It's still the same action. It is still affected by the restrictions placed on your standard action by other factors.


In real life, this is called money laundering, and it's a crime.

You can't use the bonus action to cast a spell. You're trying to pass the buck by saying "I didn't use the bonus action to cast, I used it to Ready, and I used Ready's "bonus action" to cast."

You couldn't have Readied at all if not for the bonus ability, which says it can't be used to cast spells, so you can't use the Ready action itself to cast spells


It doesn't need closinf. Two things, 1) using a readied action to cast a spell is still using amazing initoative to cast a spell. You have to declair what your doing with the readied action.

So you spenx your mythic powee to ready an action to cast a spell and it fails. The specifics of amazing initiative over rides the rules for standars actions.

2) there will never be organized play for mythic. The dm can just day no it doeant work.


Could I use a spell-like-ability with this standard action (or would that be money laundering too)?


All the readied action does is delay your initiative.

Quote:
For the rest of the encounter, your initiative result is the count on which you took the readied action

In other words, you are delaying your initiative to that action's position in the round. Your next turn would occur on that count in the next round, so you would not get "two actions in the same round" anyway.

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