Help on how to avoid a PvP situation in carrion crown (possible spoilers)


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I came into the current game around book 3. I didn't know what the current group had gone through up to this point and I had no idea who The Retriever was or what he had done to the rest of the group when the DM gave me my mission to find him. I took some creative liberty and decide to make The Retriever my brother.

My character is a LN dwarf fighter. He's a follower of Abadar. The DM didn't give me details on what I was supposed to do with Retriever once I found him so I made my mission to bring my brother home. He's wanted for petty bribery.Nothing worth death.

So, I'm in the group. This group is rather homicidal. I bring up my quarry and immediately I'm told they will kill him on sight and anyone associated with him. There's no negotiating anything and I've resigned myself to the fact that taking Retriever alive isn't happening. What I would like is to bring the body back for proper burial but I'm afraid these people aren't just going to kill him but mutilate the corpse and refuse anything be done with the body that's not feeding it to the crows.

My character will not stand for this. Having been made aware Retriever is a murderer I can handle death as the penalty. I cannot allow these people to desecrate his body and deny my family proper funeral rights.

How should I approach this? I'm worried if I fight I will kill one of them.


Talk to the GM. Ask for more information, point out that you can't create a workable character without any information beyond a name (since there is already a history between the group and that character) and rework your characters background. Obviously your expectations and the real game don't match. But you're coming late to the party, so you're in no real position to demand that the others change their style. So rework the concept WITH the GM or let the dice fall where they have to.


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Well, honestly there’s no reason at all for the rest of the players to spit in your face by insisting to mutilate the body. Why are they doing that? Are they 12?

I think it’s time to talk to the whole table OOC, discuss this like adults. Yes, your PC had a poor choice of background, and the DM should have known that. I suggest that you change your background a little to make the Retriever the hated black sheep of the family, so that your PC is fine with the party killing him, as long as they agree you can send his body off to the family or bury it.

Or, leave the party, bring in a new PC.

Or leave the group and find some more mature players.


The Retriever?

If that's supposed to be Auren Vrood, then yeah the DM goofed when he let you be Vrood's brother, as Vrood's family died horribly when he was a child.

The party's hatred of Auren Vrood is a bit over the top but arguably justified - Vrood is BAD.

If Retriever is NOT Vrood, then he's something the DM added to your game and I have no idea what's going on.


I haven't heard the name Vrood. Could be something the DM added, I'm not familiar with the AP.

My mistake but I should have added that the rest of the group does not know of my familial connection yet. I thought it best to keep that quiet for now.

I'm not sure they will mutilate the corpse it's just something I'm afraid could happen due to the chaotic nature of a few of the other players. From what I understand the only prisoners they've taken so far didn't last long. One was killed right off the bat and so the other killed himself rather than talk. I actually get made fun of when I try to subdue. Beheading the corpse seems like something they're capable of.

I don't think a discussion is necessary yet. 2 of the players are brand new to tabletop and are operating with more of a video game mentality. A 3rd is an experienced player but following the lead of the other 2. The 4th is experienced and was in the same boat I was at first, trying to fit square pegs into a round hole. I think they'll realize they have to change some things up when we get run out of a town or have no clue where to go due to no information or getting violent too quickly.

I think I'll just ride this out and use whatever happens as an excuse for the character to leave the group. I knew it was a chaotic bunch when I joined but I underestimated just how chaotic. I'm going to bring in a new character that will be more comfortable with the way they operate.


lalallaalal wrote:


I don't think a discussion is necessary yet. 2 of the players are brand new to tabletop and are operating with more of a video game mentality. A 3rd is an experienced player but following the lead of the other 2. The 4th is experienced and was in the same boat I was at first, trying to fit square pegs into a round hole. I think they'll realize they have to change some things up when we get run out of a town or have no clue where to go due to no information or getting violent too quickly.

Well. Run a game where coins pop out of the corpses when you kill something.

Tongue-in-cheek. I have to agree with DrDeth, though.


DrDeth wrote:

Well, honestly there’s no reason at all for the rest of the players to spit in your face by insisting to mutilate the body. Why are they doing that? Are they 12?

Mutilating the body increases the spell level needed for resurrection and stops corporeal undead. Taking actions so a named villain can't be resurrected is not at all unreasonable when this should be relatively common knowledge in-world.

If that's ALL they do though, they should say hello to incorporeal undead.

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Zhangar wrote:
...the DM goofed when he let you be Vrood's brother, as Vrood's family died horribly when he was a child...

Although a "survived all along" brother might be part of the GM's storyline, in which the Retriever recognizes the depths of evil he's fallen to when he's told that some of his family survived. This is good opera...

...but sadly, it's far more likely that the GM just didn't remember that much of the villain's backstory. One of the hazards of running an AP.


Nobody said that he IS Vrood. But actually Vrood doesn't have much backstory beyond evil evilness for evilities sake.


So I have heard that there are changes out there where people have developed the story and Vrood out to be the BBG of the whole AP not just BM. If this is true can someone point me in the correct direction :D.

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