Gods and Magic - question about additional resources

[Silbeg]

I am pretty much assuming the obvious here, but thought I would ask anyways.

In Gods and Magic, under Cayden Cailean, there are a couple of "interesting" things (probably in other deity's sections, but this is the one I am familiar with ;))

Are either of these legal (I assume not, since they are not called out).

Gods and Magic wrote:

His clerics may prepare neutralize poison as a 3rd-level spell. They may spontaneously cast knock as a 1st-level spell but only to open welds, shackles, or chains used to imprison or hobble someone. Their create water spell can create ale or wine (1 cup per level), and their create food and water spell can be used to make ale or wine rather than water (which spoils at the same rate the food does). His bards may learn knock as if it were a 2nd-level spell on the bard spell list.

I am mostly interested in the alternate usage of the Create Water spell, but would understand totally if the above was not legal.

[Victor Zajic]

Sadly, those kind of abilities from Gods and Magic are not legal for PFS.

[Preston Hudson]

Unfortunately, additional resources does not list any of the alternate spell options in the Gods and Magic entry. There was a thread from 2011 that mentions that the alternate spell options were not legal at that time either, although it would be great if they were legalized. Sorry about the bad news.

[Fromper]

I asked something like this a long time ago, and I was told no. Found it - here it is.

[Rogue Eidolon]

Cayden has a spell called enhance water, though, but it's 1st-level.

Remember, Gods and Magic was written before orisons were at-will, so the alcohol thing would have been more limited.

[Silbeg]

Thanks all. This is good to know, even though a little disappointing.

Actually, the orison would not be game breaking, but the rest is a pretty big deal. So, I do understand the need for some generalization of the inclusions (and exclusions).

@Mark, didn't even think of that.

[Preston Hudson]

Fromper wrote:

I asked something like this a long time ago, and I was told no. Found it - here it is.

Funny, that was the very same thread I linked to in my response.

[zarconww]

Arent they rewriting and updating the Gods and Magic into a book for
early next year?

[Preston Hudson]

zarconww wrote:

Arent they rewriting and updating the Gods and Magic into a book for

early next year?

I am not sure if Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea God is a rewrite or update to Gods and Magic but there is a new gods book coming out sometime next year.