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Normally you cannot stack two alike bonuses from any similar source. What I wanted to know is if you could stack bonuses from "non-similar sources" such as meeting two criteria with one outcome. The example:
"Swordsman's Page"; +1 Crit Range with Edged Weapons you're proficient with.
"Anatomist"; +1 Crit Range
My hunch is "No" because they give the same bonus even if they don't have the same criteria but I'm asking because I could be wrong since in games like these sometimes criteria matters more than than the actual bonus ( Means > Ends ).
These traits DO NOT increase your critical threat range. They give you a +1 bonus on attack rolls to confirm critical hits.
Traits have their own bonus class (named "traits", appropriately) and therefor do not stack with other traits that grant the same effect, but do stack with pretty much everything else.
Trait bonuses are not untyped
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/advancedNewRules.html
Many traits grant a new type of bonus: a “trait” bonus. Trait bonuses do not stack—they're intended to give player characters a slight edge, not a secret backdoor way to focus all of a character's traits on one type of bonus and thus gain an unseemly advantage.
Unless stated otherwise, all bonuses provided by traits are trait bonuses, and do not stack with each other.
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Sorry, that's what I meant Dasrak, I understand as when I say range I am thinking in dice ( +1 to rolls ) and not multilpliers ( x2+1 ), sorry for the confusion.
Also what is "untyped"? That I did never understand; also, the two traits are from separate classes and I have been trying hard to keep that in mind. I thought all traits just gave "Trait" - typed, but I don't know, honestly.
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Trait bonuses are not untyped
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/advancedNewRules.html
Many traits grant a new type of bonus: a “trait” bonus. Trait bonuses do not stack—they're intended to give player characters a slight edge, not a secret backdoor way to focus all of a character's traits on one type of bonus and thus gain an unseemly advantage.Unless stated otherwise, all bonuses provided by traits are trait bonuses, and do not stack with each other.
Many traits give a trait bonus. Not all. Further, unless specified, a bonus type is untyped. So, on the occasion where a trait provides a bonus but does not indicate it is a type of bonus (e.g. trait bonus) then that bonus untyped. Untyped bonuses stack with everything.
Finally, I did not say trait bonuses were untyped.
Some traits offer an untyped bonus. Read it carefully and pick accordingly.
Thank you.
I apologize; I had believed that all traits had been explicitly stated as being a trait bonus unless stated otherwise, but this does not appear to be the case as each trait calls out the trait bonus explicitly (that said, I don't see any case of an untyped bonus with regards to traits).
To answer your question on "untyped", Ei-Kelassud, if a trait did not declare the bonus explicitly as a trait bonus, then it would be an "untyped" bonus. An untyped bonus would stack with everything and anything. Trait bonuses (which appears to be all of them, including the two you bring up) do not stack with each other.
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Trait bonuses are not untyped
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/advancedNewRules.html
Many traits grant a new type of bonus: a “trait” bonus. Trait bonuses do not stack—they're intended to give player characters a slight edge, not a secret backdoor way to focus all of a character's traits on one type of bonus and thus gain an unseemly advantage.Unless stated otherwise, all bonuses provided by traits are trait bonuses, and do not stack with each other.Many traits give a trait bonus. Not all. Further, unless specified, a bonus type is untyped. So, on the occasion where a trait provides a bonus but does not indicate it is a type of bonus (e.g. trait bonus) then that bonus untyped. Untyped bonuses stack with everything.
Finally, I did not say trait bonuses were untyped.
Some traits offer an untyped bonus. Read it carefully and pick accordingly.Thank you.
If what you say is true then Swordsman's Page is "untyped".
Swordlord’s Page (Regional): You have trained under
the Aldori swordlords, and though not yet a swordlord
yourself, you have learned how to strike hard with your
weapon. You gain a +1 attack bonus to confirm critical hits
when using an edged weapon you are proficient with.
Pg. 5 Inner Sea Primer
Is this correct?
To answer your question on "untyped", Ei-Kelassud, if a trait did not declare the bonus explicitly as a trait bonus, then it would be an "untyped" bonus. An untyped bonus would stack with everything and anything. Trait bonuses (which appears to be all of them, including the two you bring up) do not stack with each other.
I always "presumed" being under the trait section was enough but it must be explicit? If so, I have some revising to do. Hard. Core. Revising.
I always "presumed" being under the trait section was enough but it must be explicit? If so, I have some revising to do. Hard. Core. Revising.
That was always my presumption, as well, but Errant is correct that this is never explicitly stated that all bonuses from traits are trait bonuses.
Won't change anything at my table; I'd be inclined to interpret cases such as Swordsman's Page as oversights that should have been declared as trait-type bonuses. But by RAW, yeah the Swordsman's Page trait stacks with anything.