So that Flensing Strike


Rules Questions


I was flipping through demons revisited and saw the feat flensing strike, and had a few questions about it.

1) Does the line "if this sneak attack inflicts bleed damage the victim is sickened by the pain" mean the target gains the sickened condition?
2) If so how long does the sickened condition last as only the natural armor reduction is noted as having a duration.


Care to quote or link it? I can't find that feat on the d20pfsrd.com.


VRMH wrote:
Care to quote or link it? I can't find that feat on the d20pfsrd.com.

I dont think it has been out long enough. Is it against the rule to post full text from something really recently released?

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So four months later, still there seems to be no answer. I saw that Demons Revisited only had one thing out of the book legal for PFS play, which is contact nalfeshnee.

The feat requires Sneak Attack +3d6 and bleeding sneak attack rogue talent or bleed universal monster ability.

It allows you to sneak attack with a slashing weapon, and then the victim is sickened and has its natural armor bous reduced by the number of points equal to sneak attack damage dice. It says that the penalties persist as long as bleed damage persists, and multiple strikes do not stack bleed but the penalty to armor does.

I did not copy the full text and another minor rule point because I am not certain of the rules of copying full text to this board for rules clarifications.

But I have some questions:

1) Why after 4 months are the feats and such from this book not in the d20pfsrd?
2) Why is only one spell out of this book legal for PFS play? Although most of the items are demon-specific, this feat in particular only requires a rogue with the bleed rogue talent and 3d6 sneak attack.
3) Does the natural armor bonus reduction only persist until the bleeding stops? Thus, if I take 10 natural armor off of a dragon through 2 bleeding sneak attacks (of +5d6), if he casts cure light wounds, does he suddenly regain 10 natural armor?

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1)d20pfsrd is not run by Paizo, so asking things about it on the Paizo boards is not very productive.
2) The PFS campaign admin pretty much never answer "why is this not allowed" questions, but my guess would be that a feat based on peeling off parts of your foe's skin is a bad fit for the "non-evil" theme/rules of PFS.
3) Without the actual text of the feat, I can't try and answer that question.

Sczarni

Contact the people at d20pfsrd if you'd like them to put it on their website. As Victor said, they are a 3rd party site, so posting about it here will not get you very far.


Text is here.

Yes, the target is sickened ("and", "these penalties"). It persists "as long as the bleed damage persists".

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Thanks for that link and the clarification blahpers. Is it in your opinion that it should be allowed for regular home play? I am playing knife master/scout in an adventure path, and in a few levels that feat may work very nicely.

I just thought it was odd that the feat never showed up on the Pathfinder PRD or d20PFSRD (especially seeing how diligent the d20PFSRD people are).

When I saw that basically the book wasn't supported in PFS I really began to wonder if it was a viable feat selection for a character.

Thanks again in advance.

Sczarni

Only the hardback books are listed on the PRD, as well, none of the paperbacks.


d20pfsrd is a great resource, but it takes time for some stuff to make it there. Nethys is another great resource, and the site owner posts here pretty frequently.

The thin splat books don't always make it to the PRD. Mostly just the core line is posted there. PFS probably doesn't support it because the majority of the stuff doesn't mesh well with PFS's take on alignment.

Scarab Sages

The PRD is the only official Paizo resource, and yeah, the thin splat books don't go to it. Only the RPG line is posted on the PRD. The Campaign Setting, Player Companion, Adventure Path, and Module lines are left out, though the Archives of Nethys and d20pfsrd (both 3rd-party fansites) do post material from them.

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Arliss Drakken wrote:

Thanks for that link and the clarification blahpers. Is it in your opinion that it should be allowed for regular home play? I am playing knife master/scout in an adventure path, and in a few levels that feat may work very nicely.

I just thought it was odd that the feat never showed up on the Pathfinder PRD or d20PFSRD (especially seeing how diligent the d20PFSRD people are).

When I saw that basically the book wasn't supported in PFS I really began to wonder if it was a viable feat selection for a character.

Thanks again in advance.

It's a pretty creepy/twisted ability, and the book its in makes me think it is a much better fit for demons to use than typical adventurers. If I was running a game, unless the character was a demonic cultist (or maybe a devout worshiper of Zon-Kuthon), I probably wouldn't allow the feat.

Scarab Sages

I'd allow a member of House Bolton to take the feat as well. ;)

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